Let me suppose somebody was able to move Greenland northward, importantly to the pole. He sure did not get together all the whales of the seas to do that for him. I guess he could alter the state of the continent (island) so it could have moved by itself. And when the land hit the new location, he turned back the state. But the continent could not return to where it belonged because continents can migrate in that certain special state, therefore the rotation of planet Earth speeded up.
The migration of Greenland is similar to the heat balloons: you alter the state of air (temperature) in the balloon, and your aircraft ascends. And it can only rise, you cannot make a hole in the ground by a heat balloon. Until the air has gone colder, you have got to stay in the sky. If you had an air cooler too, you could descend but usually the mere weight of the aircraft satisfies pilots wanting to descend. But the migration of continents knows no weight. That is a difference. And if he "cooled" Greenland in the new position, perhaps it glued to the shell of earth, therefore it got locked not to move and made the planet move instead.
Why did it make the planet rotate faster? This can be similar when a skater does a pirouette. In addition, the waters of the seas, similarly to the skater's skirt, flown toward the edge of the planet, the equator that is. As Greenland is a tiny continent, my guess is a few minutes of shortage issued in the time of day and that could bring about from some ten to few hundred metres of rise in sea-levels closing to the equator, and some more ebb closing to the poles. Such a sight can be seen on the map: the coasts of northern and southern lands are generally higher, and these higher coasts suffered more erosion as the rocky and loughy coastlines indicate. Some thousands of years to pass, and these coasts are going to be flat and sandy somewhat.
And what's then? Is this cartographers' meeting? If we call the one who did this procedure an ancient astronaut, such a happening may prove AAT real. I cannot neither prove nor demonstrate how can a huge mass of land be just hustle here and there, but some anomalies and myths can be explained by this.
One anolmaly is they discovered a rise of sea level independently from ice-periods. Actually the climate was warmer before the tides than after that, therefore melting of continental ice-sheets could not cause it.
From the anomaly above, we get several known sites of underwater cities. Currently the majority of human population resides by the sea, by the river, and by the lake. And this was probably not different in old times as well. Therefore this action (moving Greenland) was some sort of genocide.
Even those who accidentally ever tumble in Legendary Times forums have heard of Atlantis, the vanished land. Such a migrating Greenland responds well to that myth.
Various myths tell us about genocides and catastrophes based on water-power done by gods. We can guess the reasons but we should not guess their traces. The traces of population bottlenecks found in human DNA samples and the acute voyages and explorations with poor ship and equipment suggest the rise of sea-levels was quite fast and surprising. Some people believe in comet(s) or earthquakes causing tsunamis all around the globe.
Some myths, actually all of those I know, mention the reason of this ancient genocide: certain people breaking pacts with gods. Gods did not use nuclear weapons, comets, poison, germs, and so on to root out the sick because these might have killed the healthy too. By the way, continent migrations occur naturally as some say. And these migrations alter the rotation speed of the planet as some researches have discovered: some say a day used to be about 23 hours long at a certain point in the history of Earth and biosphere.
Conclusion: the actual sea-level may depend on not only the amount of sea water but the rotation of the planet causing "constant tides". The creators of myths could not explain someway else the overflowing waters but by extreme weather such as a rain no one has seen before (ancient scientists were not different from of the present times :P).
Part Two
As I freshly sucked this theory out of my little finger, suddenly I need to add some thoughts. Above I talked about 'he' and 'gods' but we really do not need those to explain why Greenland had to accelerate Earth's rotation. Maybe the little people could do that.
As we learned in the elementary school, religions significantly slowed down the progress of scientific development. Science (messing with Nature) was equal to heresy, science (dealing with Nature) was divine privilege. May this religious fear indicate a prehistoric disaster caused by science?
The ancient greeks measured and calculated the Earth-Moon distance. They could not measure and calculate the distance of stars, so they believed stars had got to be VERY far from us compared to Moon. They constructed a mechanical computer that could calculate the movement of planets in the solar system. I mean the clever ones of the greeks. If we now take the ancient hebrews and their mythical books such as the Pentateuch and the Book of Enoch, we have to find an astonishingly retarded astronomy on them. The greeks invented democracy meaning 'we do as we vote therefore we do as we see fit' policy whereas the hebrews had and followed LAWS dictated by gods or rather fear. It looks like the hebrews carried some more hidden memory of the disaster than the greeks, and indeed their books tell us about a deluge and a 'Babel of talk'. However, the greeks also had a myth telling about a disaster, but Plato's Atlantis could not emerge from the fairy-tale category then (and now as well). What if the three mentioned disasters are the same?
Recently I had to correct a guy on Legendary Times forums telling the tower of Babel event occurred after the Jews came out of Egypt. Well, he could have been right if we connected Babel and Babylon. And historians usually place the tower of Babel in Babylon based on the fact there really were high builings (pyramids) (just as well as at several other locations on Earth :P). What if the only connection of Babel and Babylon is the myth MIGHT come from Babylon? In that case the Jews indeed met the story of Babel AFTER they left Egypt as the guy said. But coming to know a story and a story happening is very different.
The Genesis does not mention the date of the Babel event, the story is just inserted 'somewhere' after the deluge-section. However, right after the Babel section (1 Mos 11.1-9) comes the lineage of Sem who was 100 yrs old two years past the deluge (and Noah was 602 yrs old). If the insertion of the story of Babel was quite intentional, we can state the Babel event happened VERY closely to the deluge date and if we give people enough time to scatter on Earth, we may as well state the Babel event occurred at the date of the deluge if the two were not the same event!
Myths are the fairy-tale category, so let me return to the affair of science and religion. Theologists usually explain the origin of religion as ancient people started to fabricate ancient theories to natural phenomena they did not understand. Well, the modern man does not fabricate miraculous imaginations discovering UFOs, black holes, and such, he just admits he does not quite understand, and maybe the prehistoric man was not different. Why would he have invented gods and angels and such at all? Then where does the idea of gods come from? I reported a genetical degeneration of mankind in the essay Pharaoh's Dream. The aforementioned population bottlenecks among other agents might cause genetical defect survivals in the human population, and that meant half wits and loonies walked the earth making little ones like them and certain ideas of gods and rituals. If you teach a half wit how to drive a car, he may be able to drive a car but when that half wit teaches another half wit how to drive a car, the another is going to be able to dance with a round object in both hands probably. When we think of secret rituals, freemasons come to mind. Why would anybody want to keep how to dance with a round object in both hands a secret? They say knowledge is power. A craftsman can keep how to produce a certain tool or weapon a secret, that is the process of production can be called a ritual if we are half wits. The survivors of the disaster, that is the prehistoric modern man, who were the masters of the 'rituals' were probably gods in the eyes of half wits. The half wits did not understand the meaning of 'rituals', they did not understand the inscrutable survivors therefore religion was born.
The prehistoric man was not hindered by holy inquisitions, so he probably invented this and that much faster. He could construct even his second ship with an iron mast. The historic man constructed very many ships with wooden masts until the iron age and even after. When the prehistoric man started to sail with metal masts, he soon met electricity. He quickly found out the meaning of arrestor on the cost of some crews. Taking the arrestor, he could make a collector, that is a power source. This could be a joke to a historian, but remember: it was not long after the discovery of electricity when Nikola Tesla thought about how we could milk the ionosphere for energy! However, Tesla warned the associates about the hazard of such an achievement. Well, milking the ionosphere and milking the thunder storms are very different. BUT, who knows?
A point in the story of Babel is the builders wanted the tower to reach the sky. You cannot expect a stray bolt in an arrestor of some metres. You should best make it able to reach the clouds at least. So the prehistoric architect and engineer also made the bolt-collector very high, a real tower. When the tower was built (or during construction) and a proper storm gathered, the collector started to milk energy from above no matter they needed it or not. So a channel was created, and it might cause some kind of chain reaction that started to 'milk' the ionosphere itself. I put the word milk between apostrophes not to indicate the metaphor (like before) but to indicate this might not be a pleasure trip but a geologic-technologic disaster.
I do not want to dive in explanations how this milked electricity was able to move a continent northward. You know there is much common in light, magnetism, and heat. Just remember the photo-electric phenomenon and the experience when you heat up a magnet, it loses its power, and you probably have seen an electro-magnetic crane in operation on the junk yard. And you have heard of Earth having a magnetosphere, haven't you? Try to put together these. We have a charged up (electro-magnetic) island that slid down on an also electro-magnetic planet to the magnetic pole.
Why do the Himalayan peaks not work like the tower of Babel? The temperature of the atmosphere is a key element in this. We usually do not get a thunderstorm during a snowstorm. I guess thunders are very rare on Antarctica and in high mountains as well. But who knows? Some say the Indian peninsula 'wants' to move northward... The mythical island of Atlantis had a tropical or a sub-tropical climate: with thunderstorms. The schoolteachers say static electricity of thunderbolts created by the friction of clouds. I disagree. That electricity comes from space, it charges the clouds, and the clouds discharge. The energy Earth receives from the Sun in the form of sunlight (and elecrticity) is bounced back to space in the form of visible light (albedo), in the form of invisible light (infrared radiation), and in the form of magnetism. The rest of the light energy turns to motion energy: earthquakes, continent migration, wind, muscle work, and so on.
Neither the story of Atlantis nor the story of Babel mention such a failed arrestor. I am actually lying just as usual: the story of Atlantis, that is the Critias, is not a whole. Let me quote how it is: "Zeus, the god of gods, who rules according to law, and is able to see into such things, perceiving that an honourable race was in a woeful plight, and wanting to inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improve, collected all the gods into their most holy habitation, which, being placed in the centre of the world, beholds all created things. And when he had called them together, he spake as follows-" The rest of the Dialogue of Critias has been lost.
The story of Atlantis tells us about the warring in the Mediterranean, it also describes the island too, but count in the chronicler might visit the island when the tower was not completed, and when the tower was completed or half completed, the disaster soon erased history. Let me construe something into something: the capital of Atlantis was on a flatland, and the site of the tower of Babel was also on a flatland.
People of earth, being a global society, might speak one language before the disaster. The population bottlenecks meant isolation, so the one language changed in every location through time. Just think about it, they lost a lot of things (tools, vehicles, chemicals, and so on) so their names became useless-meaningless, and I need to add you cannot teach a language properly to half wits.
Now let me deliberate on the prehistoric civilisation of Atlantis (Greenland) for a little while. Today, when businessmen travel by jumbo jets everyday here and there, there are still nations that fish, hunt, and gather. It seems civilisation (technology) spreads slower on the land than it develops. And I am talking about the second history when religion hinders science! So I bet the nation of Greenland 'a little bit' rocketed to the top of mankind only to fall back among the other wildmen to be the gods (ancient astronauts?). The Critias tells us about columns and walls covered by metal plates. What was the use? Is buildings having metal framework and overlay not what he wanted to say? It seems culture destroyed itself before it could have reached everywhere.
And finally, how different is our second civilisation? Do we learn from history? (Ha-ha-ha, this last one is great! I mean do we learn from this theory I recently sucked out of my little finger?) We have somewhat long wished to milk the thunderbolts. The only problem has been we cannot yet store the huge energy of a thunderbolt properly. So nothing would prevent mankind from copying the prehistoric technicians. But this is not enough! We plan to build an elevator to space to save fuel and make space programs cheaper. I have heard about plans to milk the ionosphere which Tesla warned us of. We are brave like the ancient greeks. Well, Greenland had somewhere to go and shut down the prehistoric power plant but what if we built the ionosphere-milkmaid on Antarctica? What may happen then? Is Earth going to beacon in the solar system for keeps indicating our late virtue?
I also do not want to hinder the progress of science by this garbage. It is possible the prehistoric man, if they were colonists, was able to milk the ionosphere safely but an incident occurred. As I stated in Pharaoh's Dream, the majority of the colonists were half wits, and those could not run such a power plant safely just like other things, but crashing a car did not make a mass murder and global destruction. Our scientists should always know what they are doing but they seem to do the way around, they learn by trial and experiment.
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Re: Just Another Greenland Theory
by Gemini » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:51 pm
Csabi_B wrote:Let me suppose somebody was able to move Greenland northward, importantly to the pole. He sure did not get together all the whales of the seas to do that for him. I guess he could alter the state of the continent (island) so it could have moved by itself. And when the land hit the new location, he turned back the state. But the continent could not return to where it belonged because continents can migrate in that certain special state, therefore the rotation of planet Earth speeded up.
It just so happens that the Earth rotates in 24 hours. And, yes, in order to get that, or get back to that, continents, Greenland, may need to be moved around.
And then that leads to me to think about the continental drift. Did it actually take the millions of years or was there some help moving things along. Could the continents have been pushed around to even out the rotation and adjust the speed, etc..? Could the entire land mass being on one side lead to long term problems? So the correction was made?
And then the location of the moon is interesting. It's shadow perfectly eclipses the Earth, not more and not less. Natural, another coincidence?
I'm getting off the point of your post, but the movement of Greenland to adjust the rotational speed of the Earth is an interesting possibility.
- Gemini