The Mayan Dresden Codex....

[HALO 122]

....actually depicts flooding as the cause of the end of the world 12/21/2012. I have some inclination to believe this is accurate because of the early posts about the alignment of the Sun with the center of the Mlkway Galaxy and essentially our solar system and earth dropping through the center of the galaxy toward the bottom. Gravitational pull will be tremendous on this planet, and such energy is what caused the first deluge when Nibiru was in Earth's vicinity (see Earth Chronicles, the 12th planet).

The Mayans did not see time in a linear fashion as we do. They saw time in recurring/repeating segments or "packets." They saw events repeat themselves in time (not identical repitition, but very similar) and this is why the Mayans are so accurate with their prophecies.

The Mayans have predicted we are in for a repeat of the deluge, and it is obvious that gravitational pull will be the cause this time, as it was last time. This time it will not be because Nibiru is in Earth's vicinity, but because of galactic alignment and pass through of the center plane of the Milky Way Galaxy. The Mayans were obsessed with time and the prediction was not made as some sort of light weight passing observation.

[lunarwing]

We say it still today.....

History repeats itself.

[Pons Asinorum]

I have some inclination to believe this is accurate because of the early posts about the alignment of the Sun with the center of the Mlkway Galaxy and essentially our solar system and earth dropping through the center of the galaxy toward the bottom.

Our Solar System orbits around the center of the galaxy, never through it. As it orbits, it also oscillates above and below the galactic "equator."

Our Solar System is currently moving away from the galactic "equator," which it last crossed some two-million years ago and will cross again some 30-million years from now.

Here is an explanation with sources that I presented in another thread:

http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/vie ... php?t=2306

The 2012 alignment that the Mayans accurately predicted is an illusion that results from our perspective on the Earth. This appearance of the sun aligning with the center of the Galaxy occurs every December 21st (the winter solstice).

What is remarkable with the Mayans is that they noticed the constellations were in different positions every time that happened, measured those differences, noted the arc, calculated the speed and derived the Precession of the Earth. Whether they understood it as that or not, it must have been an impressive cycle of nature. Certainly an impressive achievement by their astronomers.

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Gravitational pull will be tremendous on this planet,...

If we were to plunge through the center of the Galaxy, yeah, game over:

There is a giant black hole at the centre of our galaxy, a 16-year study by German astronomers has confirmed.

They tracked the movement of 28 stars circling the centre of the Milky Way, using two telescopes in Chile.

The black hole, said to be 27,000 light years from Earth, is four million times bigger than the Sun, according to the paper in The Astrophysical Journal.

We would be toast for sure. Good thing that is not the case. The gravitation force exerted by the black hole at the center of the galaxy just is not an issue for us. From Newton's law of universal gravitation:

F = G * m1 * m2 / r^2

F is Force
G is the universal gravitational constant = 6.67E-11 N (m/kg)^2
r is the distance between the Earth and the Black Hole = 2.7E+04 light-years = 2.55E+20 m
m1 is mass of Black Hole = 4 million solar masses = 4E+06 * 1.99E30 kg = 7.96E+36 kg
m2 is the mass of the Earth = 5.98E+24 kg

F = 6.67E-11 * 7.96E+36 * 5.98E+24 / 2.55E+20^2 = 4.88E10 N or 1.10E+10 lbs or 11,000,000,000 lbs of force.

This compares to 1.19E+33 lbs of force that the sun exerts on the Earth.

So

11,000,000,000 lbs
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- = 9.23E-24 or 9.23E-22 %
1,190,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 lbs


And 9.23E-22 % = 0.000000000000000000000923 % of the Sun's gravitational influence on the Earth.

If we rounded it off, we would say there is no practical influence from the Black Hole's gravitational field on Earth when compared the Sun's.

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The Mayans did not see time in a linear fashion as we do. They saw time in recurring/repeating segments or "packets."

That is an awesome concept! I never heard of it, but what an idea. Modern physics has proven that energy is in the form of discrete "packets" called quanta. This is the basis of quantum mechanics.

What if time is also quantized in packets too? If time is a particle and has a minimum size...not sure how that would work, as space and time are embedded in each other, if time was quantized, then so would space?

Wow, something to ponder for sure, thank you HALO.

We say it still today.....

History repeats itself.

Perhaps not inevitably, if time is quantized as energy is -- then it must have uncertainty in it as energy (and therefore matter) does.

But it sure seems like it does repeat, almost like there is some compelling pattern, like how crystals must grow in certain measures. Providing that "history repeats", wonder if we can break it? Should we?

All stuff to ponder!

[lunarwing]

But it sure seems like it does repeat, almost like there is some compelling pattern, like how crystals must grow in certain measures. Providing that "history repeats", wonder if we can break it? Should we?

I think you are right Pons....

I think the "compelling pattern" you are refering to.... is us. No matter what place in time, or what technology we acquire.... human nature remains the same. Whether a man is holding a stone club.... a flintlock rifle.... or a nuclear weapon.... he still has the same basic human behavior forming his thoughts and actions.

The basic results are the same and history keeps moving within these same compelling patterns over and over and over.

[yuya1963]

I think human history repeats itself, but not natural history. Humans are predictable, and until we can predict natural phenom. we can only repeat what man does.