Aliens and the Undead (10/26/11)

[Moon]

Just in time for Halloween, and given the title, I do not have high expectations of this episode. I will watch it as this could have some possibilities to it, and Halloween themed shows can be fun.

I keep waiting for another episode where they examine old ruins and artifacts for evidence, but this season has not mined that subject to its potential.

[mahalla2]

Just in time for Halloween, and given the title, I do not have high expectations of this episode. I will watch it as this could have some possibilities to it, and Halloween themed shows can be fun.

I keep waiting for another episode where they examine old ruins and artifacts for evidence, but this season has not mined that subject to its potential.

yes, but despite the lack of evidence I'm sure it will be entertaining and like you said "Just in time for Halloween". Also, the thought of undead aliens and friends is rather frightening if you think about it -

[Dr Z.]

It pains me to say this because I am 90% sold on the theory, but this show is getting ready to jump the shark. I'll wait to see the episode before commenting.

[mahalla2]

It pains me to say this because I am 90% sold on the theory, but this show is getting ready to jump the shark. I'll wait to see the episode before commenting.

yes, and I'm probably 99.9% sure about the AA Theory so I hope they do have solid evidence to back up their comments on this next episode - however, I'm not holding my breath because as the old saying goes (in this day and age) "All Roads Lead to Hollywood".

[Moon]

It pains me to say this because I am 90% sold on the theory, but this show is getting ready to jump the shark. I'll wait to see the episode before commenting.

I still think there are many more good episodes out there in the pipeline. Next week has the one on secret codes which should be interesting. And I am not counting out the undead episode either as sometimes the titles do fool us.

My sister-in law is just starting to watch this series, so everything is new to her. For us who are further advanced in the ideas out there, we would like the more advanced episodes about specific sites and researchers.

[greekben]

Maybe Georgio will grease up his hair and wear some white makeup and fangs?

[Ace Rimmer]

I think the first 2 seasons were just killer!
It got my interest renewed big time. I have believed that we are the product of Alien Intervention whether by design or accident and I know much of our past has been forgotten and tons covered up.

Anyway my belief is just part of me, I really didn't give it much thought for decades, it is what it is. But Ancient Aliens really ignited a spark again.

But for me, I do agree with Dr. Z and Mahalla, for people just starting down this road, the first 2 seasons especially can't be beat for an introduction into the AAT.

Maybe this episode will have some clips of Plan Nine From Outer Space, that was about graverobbers from space!

[cRush]

This show has been in steady decline this season. I wouldn't count on a fourth season. It's really sad because the show had so much potential, but now they are just really stretching for something new.

Why not expound upon past theories that have been presented? Perhaps, present evidence against the theories, and then counter that evidence with reason and logic by accredited individuals like University professors and PhD's.

Lately all the shows have been about associating spirituality and ethereal encounters with aliens. I just don't buy it. The show is losing focus.

[Ace Rimmer]

I agree cRush, but I stick with it and watch when I can, the new episodes.

I actually get to stay up late and see this one tonight, it ought to be "interesting".

My friends, can your heart stand the shocking facts of grave robbers from outer space?

[Sunrisepony]

Considering I was raised in a family that is very spiritual and into ghost/spirits, and lived almost my whole life in haunted houses. This will certainly be a interesting episode for me.

[siren13]

I have listened to many episodes of Coast to Coast Am with George Noory and there almost always seems to be an episode where they talk about some etities being a lot like aliens from another demention- example Reptilians resemble the classic looking demons in some literature.

Also in Breakthrough by Whitley Strieber he talked about a friend of his, Dora, being visited by an alien entity in his home just after seeing an alien with in the same few minutes they occured at exactly the same time. And in the abduction community many "abductees" have mentioned before that they have seen dead relatives during abductions.

personally I do not think the two are exactly related unless our "souls" were created or are directly related to our "Gods" as in the aliens are our gods.

[Sunrisepony]

I think that's likely where they will be going with this episode. I was just in another thread considering the thought/concept that The Other Side/Astral Plane just might be instead of a whole different place, just another dimension where our souls go when they are in a non-corporeal/non-incarnated form. Another thing I read that I thought was rather interesting, that said only a portion of a soul incarnates/becomes corporeal but the "main part" stays in a non-corporeal/non-incarnated in it's dimension of origin.

[Moon]

Last week's episode was outstanding so I will be watching this one also. Most of the episodes have been mediocre at best and I have set the bar low for this one due to its title. However, it could turn out to be a good one so I am not ready to give up on this series.

The show has been averaging around 1.3 million viewers which is quite good for some cable networks but so-so for the History Channel. In comparison, Pawn Stars gets 3.5 million viewers. I am not sure what the bar is set for series on the History Channel, so we will have to wait and see.

Here is a site to check out cable ratings:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/

[siren13]

Off subject but Pawnstars is ADDICTIVE!!!

[Moon]

Off subject but Pawnstars is ADDICTIVE!!!

How about that Chumley?

[siren13]

Ever see what kind of car he drives??? he has like this super expensive Hummer.. you just have a hard time picturing him in anything other than like a 1974 Ford Festiva hahaha

[Ace Rimmer]

Rick and the Old Man are my favorites.

Meanwhile.......


I think they were really reaching on this episode as well.

I am getting so tired of what ever half-baked idea somebody comes up with they have to preface it with..”Ancient Alien theorist’s believe……” if I had to label myself I’d say Interventionist. And I am more and more thinking they are really us from the future. But I’ll not get off track here.

One aspect of the program was of great interest, the way the Egyptians prepared a body of the rulers or important folks for the afterlife. That has never made any sense to me, removing the organs and putting them in separate containers. It seems to me if they wanted to have the body available for them to come back, they would have tried to keep it pristine. All the rigmarole they went through, it seems to me they were really making sure they could not come back in that body.

[cRush]

And I am more and more thinking they are really us from the future.

I have been slowly mulling over that possibility as well. In fact, it is so appealing, that if I didn't believe time travel to be impossible, I would probably put it at the fore front of all theories.

Of course, theoretically, if we were created in the image of these ancient astronauts, by the ancient astronauts themselves, then we are basically talking about ourselves from the future in the sense that our creators would be us with more technology.

[Ace Rimmer]

And I am more and more thinking they are really us from the future.

I have been slowly mulling over that possibility as well. In fact, it is so appealing, that if I didn't believe time travel to be impossible, I would probably put it at the fore front of all theories.

There are aspects of Time Traveling that I can't make any reasonable sense out of. But I also know just because something makes no sense to me, that doesn't make it impossible. Even if the greatest minds today say it is not possible, I still say anything is possible. I believe there is a whole lot more going on than we can ever understand.

[mahalla2]

One aspect of the program was of great interest, the way the Egyptians prepared a body of the rulers or important folks for the afterlife. That has never made any sense to me, removing the organs and putting them in separate containers. It seems to me if they wanted to have the body available for them to come back, they would have tried to keep it pristine. All the rigmarole they went through, it seems to me they were really making sure they could not come back in that body.

yes, or perhaps a very long time ago those body parts were being used for something else and just kept in an Egyptian version of an apothecary jar - Seems history often became religion or religious type rites to societies of ancient people.

[Ace Rimmer]

Maybe the organs were good fodder for cloning.

[mahalla2]

Maybe the organs were good fodder for cloning.

yes, or just replacement parts for human slaves

[siren13]

I watched the episode last night "live" no recording this time.. and I didn't think it was too off. I just felt that they would start ideas without finishing them.. maybe they could have elaborated a bit more on the "why" they think this or that could have made it more clear with a Two hour special..dunno.

I believe vampires are real souls.. I think I have a sister that sucks the life out of me when ever I enter the room..

but joking aside, I think they really could have done a better job on this one. I did see the cult one and they did a very excellent job on that one. It was interesting and some of the UNDEAD episode was like watching stories on myths and legends or the history of halloween. I am not one to say this season is a bad one though. I think that at some point they may run out of FRESH ideas. I mean Aliens may have created things or visited us in the past.. what else can you really say?

More proof on why = lots of odd.. I say give it some time new things are popping up all the time.. ( hint of optimisim?? )

[Sunrisepony]

And I am more and more thinking they are really us from the future.

Some could be from the future, but they would also have to be from our past, there are civilizations and species out there that have millions of years on us earth humans that have been around for a very long time. Even the majority of contacts say that the Pleiades Aliens (who originate from the Lyra system) have been around a very long time before even coming to earth to seed it. And you know I had always wondered where the ST:DS9 people had got their concept from about "The Founders", then when I started reading more about the different Alien species and one of the things I was reading mentioned this race called "The Founders" it was like "Oh so that's where they got that concept from." And, made me wonder a lot of things.

I agree though, this episode was a little light? I liked the part though when they tried to explain where Zombies and Vampires come from. That was kind of interesting.

[cRush]

And I am more and more thinking they are really us from the future.

Some could be from the future, but they would also have to be from our past, there are civilizations and species out there that have millions of years on us earth humans that have been around for a very long time. Even the majority of contacts say that the Pleiades Aliens (who originate from the Lyra system) have been around a very long time before even coming to earth to seed it. And you know I had always wondered where the ST:DS9 people had got their concept from about "The Founders", then when I started reading more about the different Alien species and one of the things I was reading mentioned this race called "The Founders" it was like "Oh so that's where they got that concept from." And, made me wonder a lot of things.

I agree though, this episode was a little light? I liked the part though when they tried to explain where Zombies and Vampires come from. That was kind of interesting.

I don't mean to sound too critical here, but why do you find it so easy to accept these contactee's stories about all these different races of aliens? What proof do we have to verify these stories other than words alone?

[seagull]

I think the first 2 seasons were just killer!
It got my interest renewed big time. I have believed that we are the product of Alien Intervention whether by design or accident and I know much of our past has been forgotten and tons covered up.

Anyway my belief is just part of me, I really didn't give it much thought for decades, it is what it is. But Ancient Aliens really ignited a spark again.

But for me, I do agree with Dr. Z and Mahalla, for people just starting down this road, the first 2 seasons especially can't be beat for an introduction into the AAT.

You took the words right out of my mouth, Metaluna. So I'll just say ditto for me. I'm really disappointed about this season's shows, and have gone out of my way to tell folks to only watch the first two seasons in order, rather than jumping into the stuff of this season which in my opinion will just serve to have the skeptics rolling their eyes and saying "yup--just what I thought..."

[Sunrisepony]

I don't mean to sound too critical here, but why do you find it so easy to accept these contactee's stories about all these different races of aliens? What proof do we have to verify these stories other than words alone?

What proof do we have that they are wrong? And, it's more than just contactee's that I find my information in. I do tons and tons of research. But, it's not just contactee's that are saying there are many different races, there are articles that aren't written by contactee's or even by channelers, there are those that work in the military, government and space programs through out the world that are coming forward and talking about their experiences and knowledge. There is way to much solid evidence out there at this point to ignore. It's like my sig quote says "Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth."

[Moon]

Another disappointing episode. It was fun for a Halloween based show, but I was upset they did not further investigate the elongated skulls. After last week's episode I was hoping for a bit more.

[siren13]

Yes!! I wanted them to elaborate on the skulls more also. Maybe they will return to them soon.

[Ace Rimmer]

I agree the elongaged skulls need a lot more research. Can't somebody extract DNA from them?

[cRush]

I don't mean to sound too critical here, but why do you find it so easy to accept these contactee's stories about all these different races of aliens? What proof do we have to verify these stories other than words alone?

What proof do we have that they are wrong? And, it's more than just contactee's that I find my information in. I do tons and tons of research. But, it's not just contactee's that are saying there are many different races, there are articles that aren't written by contactee's or even by channelers, there are those that work in the military, government and space programs through out the world that are coming forward and talking about their experiences and knowledge. There is way to much solid evidence out there at this point to ignore. It's like my sig quote says "Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth."

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan

Sure you've heard that before, but it holds true. The burden of proof lies on the contactee's to validate their claim. Anyone can claim absolutely anything they want, but we shouldn't just believe them simply because we can't prove they are wrong. That is a sign of naivety.

Somethings simply can't be proven due to the nature of what is being suggested. Religion is a very good example of this, as everyone knows. So, on that grounds, why don't you believe that Christianity is 100% factual and everything in the Bible is true? You can't prove it wrong to be honest. Of course, you can't prove it right either.

[Moon]

I agree the elongaged skulls need a lot more research. Can't somebody extract DNA from them?

They already have and sent it to Lloyd Pye for analysis. The DNA should be done within the year as it does take time and money.

A friend of Mr Pye's gave him a few samples of the Elongated Skulls from Peru to be tested.

[Sunrisepony]

It would be interesting to find out if there are anymore of those skulls with the horns around. And exactly where they came from. Not, location wise. But, like species wise.

Several human skulls with horns protruding from them were discovered in a burial mound at Sayre, Bradford County, Pennsylvania, in the 1880's. With the exception of the bony projections located about two inches above the eyebrows, the men whom these skeletons belonged to were anatomically normal, though at seven feet tall they were giants. It was estimated that the bodies had been buried around A.D. 1200. The find was made by a reputable group of antiquarians, including the Pennsylvania state historian and dignitary of the Presbyterian Church (Dr. G.P. Donehoo) and two professors, A.B. Skinner, of the American Investigating Museum, and W.K.Morehead, of Phillips Academy, Andover, Massachusetts. The bones were sent to the American Investigating Museum in Philadelphia, where like so many finds that question anthropology, they were stolen and never seen again.

[Ace Rimmer]

I agree the elongaged skulls need a lot more research. Can't somebody extract DNA from them?

They already have and sent it to Lloyd Pye for analysis. The DNA should be done within the year as it does take time and money.

A friend of Mr Pye's gave him a few samples of the Elongated Skulls from Peru to be tested.

That is excellent news Max. Keep us posted.

[mahalla2]

This episode was certainly a little more strange than usual but I actually kind of liked it - The connections they were trying to make with old myths and legends to alien origins were fairly well thought out and I thought the part about Lilith (1st wife of Adam) being made to inhabit the earth as a flying reptillian type entity was interesting. The zombie thing was not quite so believable but then again who would believe that I have a relative (my father's 1st cousin) who played the part of a sinister snake priestess (Yolanda Tongolele Montez) and who controled the zombies in Boris Karloff's last film "The Isle of the Snake People". That kind of thing just doesn't happen -

For those that might be curious (and or who love low budget horror flicks) here is a link to the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/movie?v=KaBNltUsdTA&feature=mv_sr