The "God" Particle

[Zeppelin1969]

The Higs Boson AKA The "God" Particle theory has apparently had a breakthrough and physicists working on the Large Hadron Collider are scheduled to have a press conference this July 4th. I heard this info in an interview with a scientist on NPR last week. He said that they had figured out the weight of the particle, but wouldn't say if they actually found it or not. He's assuming that's what this press conference will be about. There are HUGE implications if this is discovered since the theory states that this is the particle that gives all other particles in the universe mass.

[KE5EHI]

From what I read, all the CERN said was they were going to release their findings and everyone is jumping to conclusions.

http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/cern-higgs-boson-announce-data-july-four.php

Hopefully they will have some good news, but time will tell.

[Zeppelin1969]

Well, today is the day. Hope we see something great happen.

Here Tis' http://now.msn.com/now/0704-god-particle-discovery.aspx?

[Corcaigh]

I've a friend who's son works at CERN, she's actually there waiting for the announcement, and posting on faceache!

[Moon]

And it turns out they actually didn't discover the particle but are just suggesting it is. $10 billion is a lot of money, I wonder who footed the tab for this boondoggle?

I am tough on those who state they can prove aliens have visited us, why not be just as tough to these scientists? If you haven't discovered your particle, keep on working until you do.

[Zeppelin1969]

As I read it, they seem to have discovered it but don't want to jump the gun and call it a fact yet. As far as the funding goes, here's the best info I found... http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/Abo ... al-en.html

I do agree it's an expensive endeavor, but the implications of some of these discoveries could give us things you can't even comprehend the monetary value of. Maybe not for us, or maybe not even for our children, but eventually I think it'll pay off.

Things like this Higs Boson could actually give us the ability to work with anti-gravity type devices, and some of the other particles and the way they react could solve energy problems globally.

I don't claim to be a scientist in any way or actually even understand most of this stuff, but I am VERY interested and my mind is blown away by some of these discoveries.

For anyone who wants there mind blown about the discovery of particles and how they react, I rereccomend this seasons episode 5 of the universe called "Microscopic Universe". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgAixWHjqlE

Absolutely amazing!!!

[phoenix]

I’m not understanding the innermost greater details in these experiments either, but it seems to me that they discovered nothing. A lot of articles are now written about these experiments and when one reads the conclusions, it all boils down to that they can’t actually prove the existence of this claimed particle at all. What they actually are saying is that they “are pretty sure” they have sufficient prove of it, and that they ‘are pretty sure” they have seen something that indicates that it must exist.

To me this kind of assumption and conclusions , coming from a multibillion dollar hi-tech experiment and from the multitude of so called serious scientist, increases my general doubt in their theories and methods.

It seems to me that a lot of mainstream scientists and politicians who have funded this good for nothing project now has panic and has a strong need to show the world it has been worth the money and effort and time.

It really scares me that not even one critic voice has stepped forward after the so called results was published. Instead the media keeps spreading the glad news and creating a believe that something fantastic has been discovered.

The methods and power the mainstream scientists and media are using when they are backing up their theories are very damaging, and why is the scientists and media calling this so called particle a "God-Particle" ? None of them believe in a God.

Regards
Phoenix

[hollow27]

Here's a helpful little tool that explains what the potential discovery is, and why it's important:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/ ... e-mortals/

[Moon]

I agree with Phoenix on this one. I also think they need some more funding and need to have a quick discovery so they can get more secured. The countries involved have sunk over $10 billion plus into this project and are likely to pass if they have nothing to show for it.

It is possible they are jumping the gun in hopes of securing the money and are crossing their fingers they actually find this particle.

I know how important this is to all the science geeks out there, but with sky high unemployment and other problems needing attention, the money seems better suited to go elsewhere. Maybe Bill Gates or the Koch Brothers can reach into their deep pockets and give them some cash.

[Corcaigh]

And it turns out they actually didn't discover the particle but are just suggesting it is. $10 billion is a lot of money, I wonder who footed the tab for this boondoggle?

And why am I not surprised to hear that they didn't actually find anything! It seems to me that scientists come up with some wild ass guess about something, then spend a ton of money "proving" it, but never actually do...