Extra Terrestrial Artifacts and Mayan Documentary

[miketh2005]

" Supposed Mayan artifacts." Really doesn't mean much. These could be fakes, they need a date to confirm when they were made. Who made them and where they were found.

But as gerhard1 pointed out, we are talking about something actually left behind by extra-terrestrials. Not artwork or trinkets that supposedly depict alien beings.

Oh. Well why would intelligent beings make a mistake like that? I'm sure they are well organized. If we as humans can be very organized and not make a single mistake when dealing with things like viruses, etc. why wouldn't inter-dimensional ETs be much more so?

If the AA episode on "deadly weapons" is to be believed, the ETs always ask for their tools back whenever they give them to humans.

I want to know if those are fake. All I know is some site said they were Mayan artifacts.

combined posts per forum rules. Please refer to them-Mercury

As I said, Puma Punku looks to be the only site found that could be entirely attributed to extraterrestrials. I emphasize "could."

~snip~

The 'could' part is duly noted, but I am curious: what is your reasoning here?

Have you watched the AA episode?

I read the whole thread now. Your theory of an advanced human race does little to help the problem you are trying to fix.

First, you are going to ignore the stories of "star beings" and their gods coming from the stars. Then you are going to ignore the infatuation with the stars by ancient civilizations. Next you are going past the gaps in our evolution and DNA, then, and perhaps most importantly, you are not fixing the problem, you are most likely making it worse. If there was an ancient human civilization, there would MUCH more likely be trinkets we could dig up from them! I mean, this is pretty far-fetched to me. For evolution to produce a more advanced human civilization than us? And then us not being able to find ANYTHING whatsoever about them? Com'on, now.

So then you believe they are responsible for all the megalithic structures we attribute to human-alien workmanship? What would be THEIR purpose for that? And what would have wiped them out?

That still doesn't account for the many UFO sightings in modern times. I suppose these ETs could have only just arrived, but that is very improbable to me.

This also doesn't explain many ancient civilizations saying their gods or God will come back.

I don't believe the AA theory specifically states that ETs meant for us to figure this stuff out. Yes, I remember they have said that as a side note, but it's more of a what if. It doesn't have to be that way. I see no evidence of that. I see that ETs helped our ancestors along to further the progression of humankind. They told them they would return, yes, but I don't believe they thought it imperative to leave behind something for us "prove" they were there. For instance, say you are on a trip and you get lost and you calling around your friends, and a friend of a friend of a friend takes you in, but you are a strangers pretty much. After your stay the company was great and you say you'll come back again to visit. Do you leave a trinket or a souvenir for them to remember you by? So they can "prove" you were there? Most likely no. You said it to them, not because they really needed to know it, but because it was just something to say.


EDIT: I'm not saying this HAS to be the case, either, though. Perhaps ETs did want us to know they were coming. Maybe they did leave something for the Mayans we have yet to find. In SE4EP1 The Mayan Conspiracy they said how some site has only been 10% excavated? Or was it 20%? Either way, that is pretty damn low! Who knows what else we could find? The Mayan civilization was really vast, who knows where these things could be hiding. You can make your case when we have pretty much excavated it all and haven't found anything. This is like searching for a needle in a haystack and when you take out only 20% of the hay you jump to the conclusion that the needle isn't there.

Next, as someone else said maybe all or a lot of the artifacts they did leave were destroyed non-recognizably or recycled. This is not improbable. As far as I know, no one even speculates that these Aliens are omniscient! So how would they know how to MAKE SURE these artifacts get into our hands? They can try their best but there are forces beyond their control. Maybe they didn't leave artifacts behind but thought the writings and Mayan artifacts would be enough? Little did they know that the Spanish would wipe out a promising upstart civilization. When the ETs came maybe the Maya looked the most promising and so they taught them all this astrology in order for them to progress and become a thriving nation? Obviously if it is true, it was a bust!

Lastly, maybe the ETs wanted us to find it at a certain time, and that time has not come yet.

Either way, an advanced human civilization is not a suitable hypothesis in my opinion.

[Zeppelin1969]

As I said, Puma Punku looks to be the only site found that could be entirely attributed to extraterrestrials. I emphasize "could."

~snip~

The 'could' part is duly noted, but I am curious: what is your reasoning here?

The precision that the blocks are cut with is better than any example from that time period or any period afterward for that matter. If ordinary humans would have built this with tools readily available, then there would be more structures like this somewhere in the world. I still believe it may have been built by human hands, just with tools and guidance provided to them by a higher intelligence. It's a shame it's destroyed, but from what I've seen there's still a lot to be excavated.

[Moon]

All those images have been stated to appear in a documentary coming out in November of this year. It is possible they are fakes as no archeologist or geologist has examined them. We also do not know where they were found and who found them. All of this is suspect just as the Ica Stones are.

[miketh2005]

All those images have been stated to appear in a documentary coming out in November of this year. It is possible they are fakes as no archeologist or geologist has examined them. We also do not know where they were found and who found them. All of this is suspect just as the Ica Stones are.

Is that the documentary directed by the Mexican native (whose father died)?

He was going to make a theatrical full-feature film with Wesley Snipes until he got into legal trouble?

Ah, found his name: Raul Julia-Levy. Is that the one? I'm excited about the film. I hope it's not fake / sensationalism. I hope there is at least some good evidence we haven't seen before. I don't know. It could be a chance to cash-in for this guy. I hope not. But it seems legit to me, though. Articles say he is getting permission from the governments to go to places no one has been before etc. It may be ground breaking. I hope so!

EDIT: I'm looking at these closely now.

If they are fakes, they are at least very well done. Better than the Inca stones. I have hope these are real. What do you guys think if these are real?????

The Wikipedia page on the Starchild Skull says it is human? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starchild_skull

Yet this starchildproject website says it is not.

[Moon]

The Starchild skull website has a page dedicated to Lloyd Pye's fight to correct the information in Wackypedia. Wackypedia is a debunking site that will not correct anything from the person the article is about.

They also use the 1999 DNA test results to state it is human. DNA testing has advanced miles since that time period and all the new testers stated the first ones did it wrong. They also can remove ancient DNA much better today than they could back then.

As for all the claims for what the skull is, Mr Pye has a few videos that explain the skull. I have put the links up for the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE5Z4QyD ... plpp_video

As for the Mayan documentary, I will take a wait and see attitude until it is released. It might contain some really good information.

[Ace Rimmer]

Wowzer, Raul Julia, one of the greatest actors to ever grace this planet with his presence. He is just not some dead guy.

[miketh2005]

The Starchild skull website has a page dedicated to Lloyd Pye's fight to correct the information in Wackypedia. Wackypedia is a debunking site that will not correct anything from the person the article is about.

They also use the 1999 DNA test results to state it is human. DNA testing has advanced miles since that time period and all the new testers stated the first ones did it wrong. They also can remove ancient DNA much better today than they could back then.

As for all the claims for what the skull is, Mr Pye has a few videos that explain the skull. I have put the links up for the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE5Z4QyD ... plpp_video

As for the Mayan documentary, I will take a wait and see attitude until it is released. It might contain some really good information.

Mercury, you make so much sense. I am so glad I found this forum. Now I know why people criticize you if you say you got your information from Wikipedia. But still, why would the Wikipedia contributors make a fuss if someone just provides some source for the claims? Where do you get your information from? There was also testing done in 2003. And 2006 if I am reading the source correcting. (Novella) EDIT: Watching the videos. They pretty much explain everything. Nevermind, haha.

Looking on the movie project's Facebook page it seems some executive producer stole some essential footage that is needed to make the film. They don't know if they will get it back, but if they don't they will still release the information in November, just not as many people will get to read it because they can't spend any money on marketing. This would seem fishy to me, but I see no reason why they would make a fake story like this. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose. (They won't make any money from the documentary) I recommend you follow the Facebook page and the director's Twitter for new developments, especially in November, as there is a good chance you won't hear of it anywhere else, unless the mainstream media decides to pick it up if there is really good evidence presented.

Something that is also fishy to me is that I don't know if they planned it to be a feature film playing in theaters or not? If so, that is really fishy because afaik the MPAA takes a really long time to rate your movie, so I thought production had to be done months before. I don't know. I'm not an expert. Or maybe they didn't plan it to be in the theaters which makes sense to me.

Another doc to look for is Sirius. I am on its newsletter list. There should be some cool evidence in there. But it also deals with free energy, which I am not so sure about. I am not on that train. If there was a thing such as free energy, I'm sure it would be public knowledge. They claim the government is covering it up, but how could they cover it up if some inventor just releases the plans on the internet?? Doesn't make an once of sense to me. I don't believe it. Maybe Sirius will change my mind. I'm looking out for it. They promise to do it before Dec 21st.

[Moon]

Wowzer, Raul Julia, one of the greatest actors to ever grace this planet with his presence. He is just not some dead guy.

Not the same person nor is he related (although noted actor Raul Julia does have a son named Raul Julia Jr):
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0432178/

Here is the IMDb information about the upcoming documentary:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2217911/

It is stated as being in production and it should reach the cinema by November in time for the holidays.

As far as Wackypedia goes, they treat all fringe and alternative topics the same way. Any true correction is ignored and all the critics and debunkers' stuff gets put up immediately.

The videos do a good job of explaining it all for us who are not scholarly in genetics. It takes time, money and patience to get results from the evidence as hand.

[Ace Rimmer]

Thank you for clearing up my Raul Julia confusion Max.

[Moon]

Thank you for clearing up my Raul Julia confusion Max.

I did read on one site where they made the claim that the Julia-Levy is related to Raul Julia. I hope they cleared it up as it would detract from the documentary which is garnering enough controversy. Many thought Julia-Levy was related including me, but have since found out they are not related at all.

[miketh2005]

Thank you for clearing up my Raul Julia confusion Max.

I did read on one site where they made the claim that the Julia-Levy is related to Raul Julia. I hope they cleared it up as it would detract from the documentary which is garnering enough controversy. Many thought Julia-Levy was related including me, but have since found out they are not related at all.

If it's not him, it is definetly someone trying to impersonate him, then! Look everywhere and it says he is the same person. Even the Wackypedia page has the doc in his filmography. Last piece of evidence is that on his Twitter page it says he is the son of the late Raul Julia, and he tweets about the documentary on there. It also has his same picture.

Where do you get your information that he isn't his son? If it has any credibility, it shows this guy is trying to impersonate him.

[Ace Rimmer]

Doesn't say it everywhere, you need to know where to look.

http://www.newstaco.com/2011/08/30/how- ... he-mayans/

Raúl Julia-Levy is a man claiming to be the illegitimate son of celebrated Latino thespian Raúl Julia, a great character actor that appeared in a couple of great movies and more than a couple of bad ones. He is one of those faces you recognize in more than a handful of movies but whose name slips your mind no matter how many times you snap your fingers. Raúl Julia was probably best known as his role as Gomez Addams in the big budget Hollywood productions of the Addams Family. He excelled in that role — with all apologies to John Astin but none to Tim Curry.

However there is no apparent genetic link that ties Julia-Levy to the elder Julia – although Julia-Levy would want you to believe that his alleged father abandoned him as a child. In fact, Julia-Levy appears to be a stage name. His birth name happens to be Salvador Alba Fuentes. He uses the name Julia-Levy in order to get him to the negotiation table with movie producers — and sometimes those producers do manage to come to the table, ready to deal.

So the fake son of the real Raúl Julia is set to release a real documentary on the fakest news story since Y2K.

If this sounds confusing to you, do not worry about it. Take a second, and process the information line by line. Julia-Levy is set to produce a documentary depicting the facts behind the end of days, according to the Mayan Calendar. I hate to break it to Julia-Levy, but that movie was already made with John Cusack.
The fact that he is making this a documentary does not detract from the more popular film.

The best part about this documentary is that it is being written with secret information from the Mexican government. Said information has been kept secret from the world for more than 80 years, according to the unwavering Julia-Levy. That is going to make for some pretty awesome DVD extras. Unless the secret information reveals the man underneath the 1,000 masks of Mil Mascaras, I do not see how it can help humanity. Julia-Levy will not specify the nature of the top secret information. He will not say if it has to deal with the end of the world, or with aliens or even the winning numbers of next week’s Megamillions Lottery drawing. The only way he is willing to share the secret with you and me is once your money is securely inside his pocket.

Can we really trust a man who claims to tell it how it is, when he cannot even tell us who he is? The man states that he is Raúl Julia’s son but you get the idea that he will dispute the outcome of the results if they do not come out in his favor. I could already see him blaming the cotton swab for suppressing the Julia genetic gene.

As much as his actions might disgust you, I for one, cannot blame him.

I have kept it under wraps for far too long, but now I can admit it: I am the illegitimate son of John F. Kennedy Jr. Yes, I am the man who can be referred to as “JFK Jr. Jr.” It’s a secret that has been under wraps for far too long. However I refuse to use my father’s good name or my grandfather’s better name or my great grandfather’s (adequate?) name in order to sell something as trivial as a movie. No, what I am selling is piece of mind. Along with that piece of mind, can I interest you in a Mayan pyramid scheme I am working on in order to finance another John Cusack movie. “Say Anything 2,” anyone?

[Moon]

Julia-Levy should sell this project on its own merits, not by sullying the reputation of a now deceased actor. Raul Julia also is Puerto Rican and not Mexican as Julia-Levy is.

This already has taken away from the documentary and the debunkers will only use this aspect to write anything found in the doc as false.

[yerock III stoneman]

Hello all. I have a confession to make. I'm the illegitimate daughter of LBJ. That's right, while he was JFK's VP, Johnson had a wonderful night with my mom. Just call me Looney Bird. When I was 2 months old, they put me and a bunch of secret JFK tapes in a tub and sent me down the Rio Grande River.
I've edited the tapes into a documentary. It shows how JFK found out about the end of the world in 2012. Rather than reveal it to the public, he set up his own assassination.
Oh well, hiding in Mexico for the past 50 years has been really tough, but it won't matter after Dec.21.
Someone pass the tequila, por favor.

[Bob137]

Let's see if I got this right for putting in an image of something that has fell from a UFO. These cone shaped metallic artifacts, are supposedly parts of a discharge, or pieces of UFO's, and does have traces of metallic materials not of this earth. Here is the url to it:
http://criticalbelievers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7884

Sorry I have not been on this sight much in this last 6 months, but times have been tight, and once I get back on my feet, I'll be back regularly.

[miketh2005]

Let's see if I got this right for putting in an image of something that has fell from a UFO. These cone shaped metallic artifacts, are supposedly parts of a discharge, or pieces of UFO's, and does have traces of metallic materials not of this earth. Here is the url to it: [url]http://criticalbelievers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7884
[/url] Sorry I have not been on this sight much in this last 6 months, but times have been tight, and once I get back on my feet, I'll be back regularly.

I don't see much evidence behind what it is alleged to be.

Julia-Levy should sell this project on its own merits, not by sullying the reputation of a now deceased actor. Raul Julia also is Puerto Rican and not Mexican as Julia-Levy is.

This already has taken away from the documentary and the debunkers will only use this aspect to write anything found in the doc as false.

It seems that has never ever been proven, though. It's just claims these amateur reporters are throwing about. I will side with Julia-Levy until they do DNA testing that says otherwise.

[Ace Rimmer]

What's the big deal with him anyway. Julia-Levy, most folks don't made a big hoop-de-doo about who their parents are. Just make your film buddy and we will make up our minds about it. He loses credibility in my book just by his actions. Just my opinion.

and Bob...so good to see you and we don't care who your daddy is!

I have seen those pieces of metal before and do find them very intriguing. Especially since there are traces of metal not from earth.

[Moon]

Julia-Levy should sell this project on its own merits, not by sullying the reputation of a now deceased actor. Raul Julia also is Puerto Rican and not Mexican as Julia-Levy is.

This already has taken away from the documentary and the debunkers will only use this aspect to write anything found in the doc as false.

It seems that has never ever been proven, though. It's just claims these amateur reporters are throwing about. I will side with Julia-Levy until they do DNA testing that says otherwise.[/quote]

Julia-Levy has other problems to deal with now:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-es ... uit-324170

The suit says that Steve Pond, a columnist with The Wrap, was informed prior to publication of a story repeating Julia-Levy's accusations, that the charges were untrue, and that Julia-Levy was of questionable character and reputation. She says she informed Pond and The Wrap that she was the victim of Julia-Levy’s fraud and supplied him with information about articles in the New York Times and Los Angeles Times which say that he is not who he says he is and that he has previously been revealed to have been shown to be a fraud and con artist.

In September 2005, the New York Times quoted the wife of the late actor Raul Julia as saying the man calling himself Julia-Levy is “an imposter claiming to be the son of my late husband.”

In the article, Julia-Levy denies the allegations, and says he only met his late father when he was 17-years-old on a movie set in Mexico. The Times notes the dates he cites for the meeting did not jibe with his age and other information.

[miketh2005]

Julia-Levy should sell this project on its own merits, not by sullying the reputation of a now deceased actor. Raul Julia also is Puerto Rican and not Mexican as Julia-Levy is.

This already has taken away from the documentary and the debunkers will only use this aspect to write anything found in the doc as false.

It seems that has never ever been proven, though. It's just claims these amateur reporters are throwing about. I will side with Julia-Levy until they do DNA testing that says otherwise.

Julia-Levy has other problems to deal with now:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-es ... uit-324170

The suit says that Steve Pond, a columnist with The Wrap, was informed prior to publication of a story repeating Julia-Levy's accusations, that the charges were untrue, and that Julia-Levy was of questionable character and reputation. She says she informed Pond and The Wrap that she was the victim of Julia-Levy’s fraud and supplied him with information about articles in the New York Times and Los Angeles Times which say that he is not who he says he is and that he has previously been revealed to have been shown to be a fraud and con artist.

In September 2005, the New York Times quoted the wife of the late actor Raul Julia as saying the man calling himself Julia-Levy is “an imposter claiming to be the son of my late husband.”

In the article, Julia-Levy denies the allegations, and says he only met his late father when he was 17-years-old on a movie set in Mexico. The Times notes the dates he cites for the meeting did not jibe with his age and other information.

[/quote]

Yeah, who to believe. I still believe in the documentary unless evidence is shown. The lady could be full of it. Think about it. Why would it benefit HIM any to make false accusations? And she is accusing him of stealing is own footage? Wut?

[Ace Rimmer]

We already have a huge thread about Raul-Levy and his film.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6637

[gerhard1]

Let's see if I got this right for putting in an image of something that has fell from a UFO. These cone shaped metallic artifacts, are supposedly parts of a discharge, or pieces of UFO's, and does have traces of metallic materials not of this earth. Here is the url to it:
http://criticalbelievers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7884

Sorry I have not been on this sight much in this last 6 months, but times have been tight, and once I get back on my feet, I'll be back regularly.

Getting back to topic, this item is something that I will have a serious look at.

Thank you.

[yerock III stoneman]

Hey Bob137, nice to hear from you again.
Do you have more pix of these to share? Also what percentage of the material is "extraterrestrial". And what are the other materials made of?
... Peace.

[Zeppelin1969]

Hey Bob137, nice to hear from you again.
Do you have more pix of these to share? Also what percentage of the material is "extraterrestrial". And what are the other materials made of?
... Peace.

Looks like dookie, alien dookie that is.

Seriously though, I've seen this before too. I guess it was analized and there are unknown elements existing. Last I saw the guy that found it was trying to get $1,000,000.00 for it or a measly $10,000 for a shaving to do analysis on.

[yerock III stoneman]

Zeppelin1969, I saw something about the shaving for $10,000. No thanks. Why would we need to pay money to have it analyzed. Theres supposed to be one in the US, I think.
....
I saw Led Zeppelin at the Spectrum in Phila. when they still used a rotating stage in the center. Wow! It was '69 or '70. They were awesome and loud, you could feel the music coming to you as the stage turned your way.
... Peace.

[Zeppelin1969]

I saw Led Zeppelin at the Spectrum in Phila. when they still used a rotating stage in the center. Wow! It was '69 or '70. They were awesome and loud, you could feel the music coming to you as the stage turned your way.
... Peace.

That is very VERY cool. Unfortunately, never got to see them myself. Born in 69.

Here's a pretty cool youtube vid about the 1st. artifact that miketh2005 posted.

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNByglVrQG8

[gerhard1]

I saw Led Zeppelin at the Spectrum in Phila. when they still used a rotating stage in the center. Wow! It was '69 or '70. They were awesome and loud, you could feel the music coming to you as the stage turned your way.
... Peace.

That is very VERY cool. Unfortunately, never got to see them myself. Born in 69.

Here's a pretty cool youtube vid about the 1st. artifact that miketh2005 posted.

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNByglVrQG8

I watched the YouTube video, and I must confess to being somewhat underwhelmed by it. What does it show? You probably won't believe this, but I'm trying to be as fair as possible, and I want to give the AA theorists every chance to make their case.

Is this disc that was found in Mexico an alien articfact, or what?

I am still checking on Travis Walton, and I have yet to form a definite conclusion. I have the impression that the metallic object being offered for sale on eBay (the object pictured here that looks like it is dookie) is somehow connected to the Walton abduction case. Is this true? If not, then where did it come from?

[Moon]

I decided to merge the two threads together and gave it a new title. Since extraterrestrial artifacts is the main subject, I am using the title from that subject. I also am throwing in the Mayan Documentary since it is about that same subject. Hopefully when it comes out there will be some good evidence to support this. But after finding all of the links about the lawsuits, I wonder if some are scam artists trying to make a quick dollar.

Still, the proof is in the pudding and Julia-Levy could of stumbled into some real good information. Erich von Daniken is coming out with a book in November in which he states the best evidence to support alien visitation. Some have claimed it is his final book and we shall see. It is possible there is no coincidence the book is coming out at the same time of the documentary. Now if I saw Herr von Daniken's name attached to said documentary I would be more confident.

Evidence of the Gods: A Visual Tour of Alien Influence in the Ancient World by Erich von Daniken (New Page Books, November 22, 2012)

[gerhard1]

I decided to merge the two threads together and gave it a new title. Since extraterrestrial artifacts is the main subject, I am using the title from that subject. I also am throwing in the Mayan Documentary since it is about that same subject. Hopefully when it comes out there will be some good evidence to support this. But after finding all of the links about the lawsuits, I wonder if some are scam artists trying to make a quick dollar.

Still, the proof is in the pudding and Julia-Levy could of stumbled into some real good information. Erich von Daniken is coming out with a book in November in which he states the best evidence to support alien visitation. Some have claimed it is his final book and we shall see. It is possible there is no coincidence the book is coming out at the same time of the documentary. Now if I saw Herr von Daniken's name attached to said documentary I would be more confident.

Evidence of the Gods: A Visual Tour of Alien Influence in the Ancient World by Erich von Daniken (New Page Books, November 22, 2012)

I was wondering what happened. I had momentary thoughts that maybe you didn't like me any more and had deleted the thread along with me!! I am relieved to see that that is not the case.

This issue (UFO's) has come up on (of all places) a gun forum that I am on.

Anyway, I am still looking for anything on the peice of metal purportedly found near the site of the Walton case.

[yerock III stoneman]

Ah, shucks, Gerhard1, we all love ya here on this forum! And your level headed insights, too.
... Peace.

[gerhard1]

Ah, shucks, Gerhard1, we all love ya here on this forum! And your level headed insights, too.
... Peace.

Thank you; I appreciate the very kind words.

[Moon]

Gerhard1, I gave your original title to the thread. With the documentary and new book coming out by Herr von Doniken, these subjects are going to be discussed much more. They both will cover the same territory and we might as well continue the discussion here. Of course, a book review post will be another place to discuss the book itself.

[gerhard1]

Gerhard1, I gave your original title to the thread. With the documentary and new book coming out by Herr von Doniken, these subjects are going to be discussed much more. They both will cover the same territory and we might as well continue the discussion here. Of course, a book review post will be another place to discuss the book itself.

I appreciate thhat.

Incidentally, here is an interesting link. It tells of the Bob White object, currently near Branson, MO.

http://ufoevidence.org/cases/case365.htm

I am fairly close, so a trip to the museum might be in order. The objct is similar to the Travis Walton object, and again, it resembles alien doo-doo.

[Zeppelin1969]

There was an episode of UFO Hunters on H2 tonight about the artifact. I missed most of it, but it'll be on again at like 2 am. From what I saw they had the object being investigated by a scientist/former G-Man/former military man. A very credible fellow for sure. One of his stories was about when he was travelling with the item he had it locked in a hotel safe and it killed the safes electronics 3 nights in a row. The 3rd time they had to drill to get it out. He also did photo x-rays which revealed it was emitting some form of radiation at certain spots. He sent it to a lab for some very specific tests and they gave him some analysis of it's composition but told him they didn't do the test he specifically sent it to them for. He says he believes they're lying and that they ran tests and found something they didn't want to tell him. The composition of the item seems to be manufactured in a specific way and not naturally formed since it contains an abundance of aluminum and other alloys.

Not sure if all I said is 100% correct. My memory's failing. Here's a clip I found on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZF3BfDN ... sults_main

[Bob137]

The pine cone object reminds me of the pine cone object that the Anunnaki hold up in some of the stone carving of them. What do you all think, could it be the same thing?

[Buzi-Blu]

The pine cone object reminds me of the pine cone object that the Anunnaki hold up in some of the stone carving of them. What do you all think, could it be the same thing?

That crossed my mind too. For those that missed that thread, here is a link to it:
http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1974

I'd like to know what type of metal these cones are made from, or if there are any natural or industrial processes for creating such a shape. If it's meant to be from an alien spacecraft then what is it supposed to be? Not great having hot bits of metal falling off.