Electrogravitics

[nathanallan]

I would like to know more about this subject. After being into the computer field for this long, reading the articles and following advancements, I can't help but think that gravity is the next "big thing." All I can find online (not from a very recent search) about gravity research is very little about different planes and how difficult and expensive it is. Nothing I can do myself as a personal project. I also can't help thinking that maybe we're reading too much into it (it=gravity). Things just seem simpler to me when you break subjects down to the simplest parts, then go from there. Maybe I should research more.

Nathan

[Nightwind]

Hi Nathan,
I'm not sure I understood exactly what kind of info you're looking for on this subject, but I posted a link on the "New Research" board that has a little bit to do with gravity and briefly mentions gravitons. Either way, you might have some luck in finding what you're looking for on the website I linked to. My post is called "How to IM an alien".

On a side note, I'm also very interested in computers, and in doing my own little research projects at home. And while it's a bit difficult to experiment with sending particles around at home, I do enjoy pondering theories and new ideas.
One thing that I've done some research about, and that I truly recommend if you know some programming language, is artificial intelligence! Especially self-evolving neural networks. It's quite a magical feeling to watch something you've created evolve before your eyes. I think of them as my little babies. It also raises questions about what defines a thinking consious being - a topic we're inevitably facing when we're looking for extraterrestrial life.
It would be interesting to hear what kind of projects you might have going on, and what kind of research you enjoy looking into.

[nathanallan]

Since I'm in school, my projects are kinda slow moving. But I do have a few working. The main one is My Altos network. I have an Altos 986T with 7 serial ports, meant to be a file server (actually came from a collections agency from 1988), and will stay one but instead of terminals, I'll have a bunch of different computers attached. So far, the list is Atari ST 1040, Tandy 2500SX, and a win95 laptop, but I'll soon have an Atari 800XL, C128, and a couple of other ones plus an ethernet connection to the internet. I'm still testing to see whether all of the machines will talk to it (it runs Xenix).

I do mostly Basic language, but am learning more and more every day. Linux teaches LOTS of scripting. My teacher made us do most everything from the command line, and I am grateful for that. I'm going to learn the alice language, too. These are pretty much tinkerer projects, though. My main goal is to set up a network using the Moon as a jumping off point. Cause even though the Mon would not function well as a jumping off point for ships (which I disagree with but I'm not in charge ) it would make an EXCELLENT jumping off network node. And I figure gravity would be the medium.

Never really have known much about AI, honestly. I hace read stories of people's computer programs going off in directions they never thought about before, and they were really interesting. I guess I prefer my machines kinda dumb

Have you ever listened to interviews with Jon Lear? He talks of gravity as a medium to transfer information. Hearing an interview with him actually got me interested in the subject. I love computers, but I realise that it isn't even the tip of the iceberg.

The kind of thing I'm looking for is info on what kinds of parts/substances can be used to affect gravity. Like how quartz crystals can be used to affect electromagnetic waves, etc. What would be needed to affect gravity? According to the article it would be hard to do. Chin up, though, I know it's possible.

Nathan

[Shuttle]

Theres a book available by Nick Cook who works for Janes Defense defense weekly called 'The Hunt for Zero Point' its available on the LT book store I think.I have a early hardback copy from 2001.
Packed full of info on the subject.Highly recommended! Though please be aware there is some strong language in it.
Take a look interesting stuff.

[EllenL]

Theres a book available by Nick Cook who works for Janes Defense defense weekly called 'The Hunt for Zero Point' its available on the LT book store I think.I have a early hardback copy from 2001.
Packed full of info on the subject.Highly recommended! Though please be aware there is some strong language in it.
Take a look interesting stuff.

I have that book. it's very interesting. I particularly took interest in the nazi experiment called "the bell device" I think it was.

[nathanallan]

thanks for the tip on the book! I know I've been slow to respond, but class is back on, and I *thought* I would have time, but nope. I've been studying for hours till just a few minutes ago.

I'll be sure to check out that book.

Nathan

[Csabi_B]

F = K x m1 x m2 / (r x r )

This is the power we call gravity. K is a constant value originated from observation. So, if we observe otherwise, the gravity power changes as well. If K is close to zero, gravity is also close to zero. If we observe different mechanisms which have the "/ r x r" rule, we can easily be fooled, and we cannot tell one mechanism from the other.

Let's suppose the published science on Earth puts cosmic flow, planetar pressure and tidal force under one hat, and takes the whole for gravity. The astronauts go to the Moon and are to smash their faces, but in the end they are going to observe that K is close to zero on the Moon.

So, if you want to build an aircraft which can ascend and descend in the so called gravity field of Earth, you have to find out how can you alter a certain K where that certain K is observed anyway. I can't help you in that because it is rather a technoligical issue than a philosophic one.