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Postby Ace Rimmer » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:30 pm

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Located in the recently restored church of San Pietro, Montalcino, Italy, are three beautiful works of art. The one located immediately behind the alter is called the Glorification of the Eucharist and was painted just before 1600 AD by the very talented artist Ventura Salimbeni. What makes this painting both rare and unusual is the focal point which features a mechanical device that strongly resembles a satellite or observation drone. Although this has been refuted as nothing more than a creation globe there are a few points worth noting that challenge this rather high-handed dismissal. The device clearly has telescopic antenna, what appears to be a camera (or lens) as well as a spotlight.

According to some people the lens is a depiction of the moon and the light is a depiction of the sun. If this is the case then the moon is a double crescent and the Sun is depicted proportionally smaller than it should be. In addition, the antennas are clearly fixed to the globe with grommet-like devices and are tipped with aerial spheres. The globe also displays lines which have been claimed to represent early longitude lines on the globe of the Earth. This too cannot be true as in 1600 AD the prevalent belief was that the world was flat not round. It would have actually been illegal to depict it in this way. In fact, the lines look like the joins in metal plates and perhaps that is what they are
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Postby Moon » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:32 pm

Great find, Metaluna!

I would hazard a guess that something like a space probe fell near where the artist lived as that looks like a satellite or probe to me.

Thank you for sharing that with us.
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Postby mobious13 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:57 pm

This could be considered a (photo from that era) of a sphere recovered from a possible malfunctioned craft. When activated it actually glowed and pulsated. What we today would call a UFO. Religions as well as governments lie to maintain their grip on power. THEY dont want the "Flock" have their eyes opened.

But yes it looks very Sputnik-ish to me also.
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Postby Serene » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:49 pm

So who are the two men sitting next to it? Jesus and "God"? On clouds? with 2 angel faces peeping in on each side?
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Postby Theory » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:32 pm

If it was a satellite or something, what does the bird represent? A spaceship? I too, would like to know who the people are suppose to be? If its metal that he was trying to paint, then why is it two different shades of blue?

When I looked at the picture before reading what was under it, my conclusion was, that it was god and jesus with their magic wands pointing at earth with the sun and moon reflecting off of it, and the lighter shade of blue looks like land or clouds.
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Postby lunarwing » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:33 pm

Cool huh? :wink:
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:34 am

In the upper part of the painting the Holy Trinity is depicted: On the right is God the Father, on the left is God the Son, and above Them in the centre, is the Dove which represents the Holy Spirit. In the lower left one of the people wears a crown similar to that of a Pope – it is believed to be Pope Clemente VII.

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UFOs in Ancient Art

These paintings are my smoking gun for sure. Wait until you see ~"The Miracle of the Snow" ~ by Masolino Da Panicale circa 1400 from Florence, Italy ~ in the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore, depicting Jesus and Mary on very non vaporous "lenticular clouds" , accompanied by an armada of flying saucers stretching beyond the horizon. (It is on the linked website)

The entire Glorification of the Eucharist painting.

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Postby upperworld » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:42 am

Metaluna wrote:Loads more stuff here. Holy Crappola!

UFOs in Ancient Art

These paintings are my smoking gun for sure. Wait until you see ~"The Miracle of the Snow" ~ by Masolino Da Panicale circa 1400 from Florence, Italy ~ in the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore, depicting Jesus and Mary on very non vaporous "lenticular clouds" , accompanied by an armada of flying saucers stretching beyond the horizon. (It is on the linked website)



Wow awesome link! The Miracle of the Snow was incredible, almost all of those painting were incredible...i also really loved the "Madonna with St. Giovanino" and the 17th Century fresco depicting the Crucifixion of Christ. An AA series episode on these works of art alone would be amazing.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:47 am

upperworld wrote:
Metaluna wrote:Loads more stuff here. Holy Crappola!

UFOs in Ancient Art

These paintings are my smoking gun for sure. Wait until you see ~"The Miracle of the Snow" ~ by Masolino Da Panicale circa 1400 from Florence, Italy ~ in the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore, depicting Jesus and Mary on very non vaporous "lenticular clouds" , accompanied by an armada of flying saucers stretching beyond the horizon. (It is on the linked website)



Wow awesome link! The Miracle of the Snow was incredible, almost all of those painting were incredible...i also really loved the "Madonna with St. Giovanino" and the 17th Century fresco depicting the Crucifixion of Christ. An AA series episode on these works of art alone would be amazing.
Yeah man, I was thinking the same thing. Really all of those paintings are something else. Pretty hard to explain them away as anything but UFOs. This is some of the best hard evidence I have ever seen.
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Postby PegasusAngel » Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:10 am

upperworld wrote: An AA series episode on these works of art alone would be amazing.

Totally agree...all the paintings are fascinating...would like to hear Giorgio et al's perspective on them.
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Postby Foxlike Mulder » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:49 am

Clearly these are just weather balloons, c'mon man!

Seriously, art from the Baroque through the Renaissance is incredibly revealing. In many cases, you might argue these paintings are photographic evidence. Another interesting cat is Hieronymus Bosch; he had a very strange perspective on canvas and I have often thought his work was "other worldly", something which was way, way out of the norm in the 15th century.

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=hi ... 24&bih=578

Something else to think about: if this isn't real life depiction in art, then the imagination was just incredible. One paradox, how is it they can conjure up flying machines/disks, yet there is no art (I can find) with an automobile or any other modern machine we have today. How about a painting with a skyscaper landscape? I guess that would be too hard to imagine even though they had some pretty massive structures already on Earth. It seems like a stretch to just simply imagine flying machines when they didn't imagine (or depict) the more obvious. I think the answer is in the idea that art wasn't necessarily a lot of imagination (I don't see any abstract art more than 100 years old). I think a lot of it was documentation. Hence the concept of commissioning art. Just a theory.

One other thought: depiction of a round Earth (or even a whisper) was considered heresy, often punishable by death (Spanish Inquisition). Why was the round Earth theory a threat to the religious "right?" (and those who had a very influential hand in governing Europe at the time)? Was it because that theory conflicted with the one God concept that was accepted in mainstream religions then? Much of the art (15th-17th C) had heavy religious overtones, but some of it as we have seen conflicts with the prevailing one God concept. Were some artists (or people commissioning art) trying document their belief that something was wrong with prevailing thought, or religious rule?
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:17 am

His stuff is so trippy and cool, but that's some seriously messed up stuff!

I am at work and pressed for time. I like what you have to say about the art of those times and what they, the artists, might have been trying to.
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Postby Foxlike Mulder » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:41 am

There is more with Bosch; I have a small book on him and the pictures are really hard to see, but I truly wonder about AA theory as it pertains to Bosch. He depicts a lot images of the temptation of Adam and Eve; in some of those same massively confusing (yet eye-popping) paintings are "demons" fornicating with humans. By the way, those demons look like reptiles and in some cases birds. There is also an image of a birdlike creature eating a naked man. After reading Sitchin, I really have to wonder if Bosch isn't painting about the seeding of man and how the gods came down to Earth and mated with the humans. I'm going to do more research on this one.
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Postby Nikola » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:26 pm

Aren't the dark spots representing the continents?
Disappointingly enough, even myself, I think it's just a work of a visionary who's really high!



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Postby Ace Rimmer » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:17 pm

Foxlike Mulder wrote:There is more with Bosch; I have a small book on him and the pictures are really hard to see, but I truly wonder about AA theory as it pertains to Bosch. He depicts a lot images of the temptation of Adam and Eve; in some of those same massively confusing (yet eye-popping) paintings are "demons" fornicating with humans. By the way, those demons look like reptiles and in some cases birds. There is also an image of a birdlike creature eating a naked man. After reading Sitchin, I really have to wonder if Bosch isn't painting about the seeding of man and how the gods came down to Earth and mated with the humans. I'm going to do more research on this one.
Holy crap, I have been looking at more of his stuff and reading about him.
LMAO, I hope nobody comes up behind me, I'm still at work..I can just hear them .."What are you looking at!!!" :shock:

There is a weird old painting on the forum with a Reptile like creature and eye on his butt! Reminds me of one of Bosch's paintings, I'll try to find it.
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Postby Moon » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:19 pm

These paintings and other artwork do have me wondering something now:

Does the Vatican have any alien artifacts (probes, etc) hidden away in their vaults? They would of been the ones notified in the Middle Ages when they were at the height of power. Some of these artists might have been granted access to see these objects so they could paint a divine image.

Add to that the Vatican publishing articles on the possibility of aliens and any disclosure not harming Christianity or religion in general.

Makes one think, doesn't it?
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Postby angeloneastralseed » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:48 pm

The funny thing is they claim, "It's not a UFO it's a 'creation globe'" so perhaps the 'creation globe' is just another word for UFO.

Funny, fox
Clearly these are just weather balloons, c'mon man!


:D

There are many paintings with UFOs in them. I think we should take one at a time and give our interpretations.
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Postby Theory » Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:02 pm

angeloneastralseed wrote:There are many paintings with UFOs in them. I think we should take one at a time and give our interpretations.


Sounds good to me!
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Postby Foxlike Mulder » Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:31 pm

Look at two images in the Bosch painting "The Garden of Earthly Delights". In the one, there is an image in the top left corner of a demon in a space helmet, no? And all the demons in the picture are having their way with the human ladies. Seems awfully familiar to Sitchin's descriptions of the Annunaki, "alien gods" or creation gods, impregnating human women, which subsequently created conflict amongst the Annunaki. By the way, don't these demons have a reptilian quality to them?

In the second image, doesn't the orb, or creation globe in the center part of the frame look remarkably similar to the "Eucharist" painting shown above (which was also painted approximately 100 years later)? Like way similar. And inside the "creation globe", or spaceship(?) are the little humans.

Bosch is definitely strange; these depictions, quite sexual and perverse in nature are extremely scandalous considering the time it was painted. Yet, he didn't appear to suffer any negative consequences.


http://www.hieronymus-bosch.org/Triptyc ... -1500.html

http://www.hieronymus-bosch.org/Triptyc ... -1500.html

I apologize for the URLs, I couldn't seem to get the attachments to stay.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:59 pm

Yeah they are quite similar "the creation globe" there was definetly something going on in that time period with these paintings.

And as Max brought it up, who knows what the heck the Vatican has stashed away!

There is so much going on in the Bosch paintings it is hard to take it all in, especially the Garden of Earthy Delights.
Going by the mondo bizzaro content of his paintings, I find this extremely weird...
"He became a popular painter in his lifetime and often received commissions from abroad.
In 1488 he joined the highly respected Brotherhood of Our Lady, an arch-conservative religious group of some 40 influential citizens of 's-Hertogenbosch, and 7,000 'outer-members' from around Europe."
An arch-conservative religious group !
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Postby Theory » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:23 pm

I'll start with the first painting...it does look like a space helmet to me, but I don't think those creatures resemble reptiles...

now on to the second...I can see the similarities in the globes.

All I have to say about Mr. Bosch is he had one messed up imagination. I can not believe he was part of a religious group, something is not right there.
What I do believe is I am for sure going to have nightmares tonight....I'll no doubt be chased by freaky looking demon creatures who want to feel me up
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Postby Foxlike Mulder » Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:12 am

Yes, I noticed his affiliation with the Brotherhood of our Ladies. Total contradiction.

Father John: Hey dude, what's up with thou painting? We dost think you have a bent view on God. Bosch reply: No man, it's all chill. Those there are demons and they're out to get us...let us pray.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:49 am

I'm with you Theory, I didn't have any nightmares though, but those are seriously disturbing paintings.

And I still can't grasp the idea he was embraced by the religious community back then. What the Hell !?!
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Postby upperworld » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:32 am

Metaluna wrote:I'm with you Theory, I didn't have any nightmares though, but those are seriously disturbing paintings.

And I still can't grasp the idea he was embraced by the religious community back then. What the Hell !?!


That doesn't surprise me. Look at the things the religious community have embraced in the last 50 years. Paintings would be a mild offense in comparison.
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Postby Bob137 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:11 pm

When I took Art History, numerous painting such as these, had ufo's and possible aliens depicted int hem, I questioned the instructor on these renderings, and she did admit, that many do believe that they are depictions of craft, and possible extraterrestrials! She of course immediately changed the subject to other information in regards to the paintings details of other objects, and subjects, but at least she did acknowledge that it was a probability in the paintings of those periods of time, and that that was possibly what the artists had seen!
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Re: Glorification of the Eucharist ..what the heck is this?

Postby Inquiring Mind » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:41 pm

Metaluna wrote:Image

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Located in the recently restored church of San Pietro, Montalcino, Italy, are three beautiful works of art. The one located immediately behind the alter is called the Glorification of the Eucharist and was painted just before 1600 AD by the very talented artist Ventura Salimbeni. What makes this painting both rare and unusual is the focal point which features a mechanical device that strongly resembles a satellite or observation drone. Although this has been refuted as nothing more than a creation globe there are a few points worth noting that challenge this rather high-handed dismissal. The device clearly has telescopic antenna, what appears to be a camera (or lens) as well as a spotlight.

According to some people the lens is a depiction of the moon and the light is a depiction of the sun. If this is the case then the moon is a double crescent and the Sun is depicted proportionally smaller than it should be. In addition, the antennas are clearly fixed to the globe with grommet-like devices and are tipped with aerial spheres. The globe also displays lines which have been claimed to represent early longitude lines on the globe of the Earth. This too cannot be true as in 1600 AD the prevalent belief was that the world was flat not round. It would have actually been illegal to depict it in this way. In fact, the lines look like the joins in metal plates and perhaps that is what they are


...The implications are truly mind blowing. Great find Meta! I think I recall seeing this picture on one of the AA episodes.
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Postby Inquiring Mind » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:46 pm

upperworld wrote:
Metaluna wrote:Loads more stuff here. Holy Crappola!

UFOs in Ancient Art

These paintings are my smoking gun for sure. Wait until you see ~"The Miracle of the Snow" ~ by Masolino Da Panicale circa 1400 from Florence, Italy ~ in the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore, depicting Jesus and Mary on very non vaporous "lenticular clouds" , accompanied by an armada of flying saucers stretching beyond the horizon. (It is on the linked website)



Wow awesome link! The Miracle of the Snow was incredible, almost all of those painting were incredible...i also really loved the "Madonna with St. Giovanino" and the 17th Century fresco depicting the Crucifixion of Christ. An AA series episode on these works of art alone would be amazing.


I would so love to see an entire episode on these paintings!

I'll put this in the 'AA episode suggestions' thread ASAP.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:58 pm

Good idea, I'd love to see an episode just on old paintings.
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Postby Inquiring Mind » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:01 pm

Foxlike Mulder wrote:
One other thought: depiction of a round Earth (or even a whisper) was considered heresy, often punishable by death (Spanish Inquisition). Why was the round Earth theory a threat to the religious "right?" (and those who had a very influential hand in governing Europe at the time)? Was it because that theory conflicted with the one God concept that was accepted in mainstream religions then? Much of the art (15th-17th C) had heavy religious overtones, but some of it as we have seen conflicts with the prevailing one God concept. Were some artists (or people commissioning art) trying document their belief that something was wrong with prevailing thought, or religious rule?


Hell of a good question and one I've often pondered over myself. The atmosphere was so brutal and the suppression of truth so strong back then, one has to ask himself-what were they trying to hide? Why was the church so hell bent on keeping the fact that the Earth was round so secret?
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Round Earth

Postby Bob137 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:11 pm

Probably to keep them from coming to America, and trying to make a free society! Which it is not, at least not anymore! I believe in freedom, I wish it was freedom from religion, not freedom of religion, but then again, religion has played some good parts, along with bad, though mostly bad! I think the Annunaki screwed up when the established religious beliefs the way they did, either that, or mankind screwed it up for us all! Either way, it needs a lot of work, maybe a clean slate, and start all over again, with the truth!
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Gerone Decoding the Glorification Of The Eucharist

Postby Gerone » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:13 am

I have been decoding ancient images. I have hundreds of examples, however, because I'm new to this site I'm struggling with posting my images here. If no images appear with this post go to:

http://www.alien-ufos.com/personal-ufo- ... ou-186.htm

Meanwhile I continue attempts to load my images here. Gerone
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Postby upperworld » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:17 pm

Here is the go-to link for anyone struggling to upload images.

http://www.legendarytimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1233

Read Jeff's post.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:24 pm

Hi Gerone, we have a thread going about The Glorification of the Eucharist already, you might want to continue posting in it.

Welcome to the forum by the way. That painting is fascinating.

Glorification of the Eucharist ..what the heck is this ?

And also the link you posted is to another message board, is there something there you want us to see there ?

Oh ok I found your posts on the other forum, I don't have time to check them out right now, but I'll definitely look later.
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Re: Glorification of the Eucharist ..what the heck is this?

Postby bill loika » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:57 am

Just like the gold airplanes from South America.You can not come up with this during that era with out having seen it.That thing is not within the sphere of reference during that time.Looks almost like an old 50's TV with the rabbit ear antennas.The screen is on the other side and Jesus and God are trying to tune in the program! Seriously,this is quite baffling.
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Re: Glorification of the Eucharist ..what the heck is this?

Postby Dane » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:53 pm

Great thread. I only didnt contribute because it had gone so far and long before I found it.

Much of it is arguable, but that Glorification of the Eucharist, while in my opinion quite clearly shows a moon and sun, is clearly not a representation of the earth or world or galaxy.

I do believe that that is the sun and moon (not light and lens). Stylized as it would be, at the frame of reference of the artist... however, those are not "wands" or "pens" they are clearly pieces of the circular object below. Which I believe may simply be REFLECTING the sun/moon. Metaphorically if not literally.
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