Misinterpreted Angels

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Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Ninjabones » Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:17 am

Hi, I've been watching the Ancient Aliens Series recently online, and other videos of NASA footage or other videos of that sort. I've come to realize that possibly ancient depictions of Angels are currently being misinterpreted. In my opinion, these 'angels' being drawn, are drawn a certain way so a person looking at these drawings can view their face but know they were in a helmet or glass sphere type device for habitat control. Thinking logically if I were to carve a 2-D drawing of an astronaut onto a flat side of a stone. I would either have to just show a helmet or make the helmet translucent or, see through. Drawing such a sight onto stone I would make a large circle surrounding the head to act as a symbol to the helmet and then carve their hair and face or what would be visible if their were no helmet or sphere-like device. You'll notice in a lot of the pictures of Angels the Halo isn't really a ring above the head is it. Its more of a circle that surrounds the entire head. Angels look as Humans do, we are created in God's image. Who's to say aliens aren't humans of another Earth. So ancient man had to emphasize they were not of this earth, but also always had a helmet of some sort on to provide breathable air to the 'angel'. As for 'angels' being depicted as having wings, they were merely symbols to show power of flight. The wings could possibly be a symbol to show that person is a "Sky-person" or Anunnaki as they would have called them. The Angels could be a symbolic gesture to suggest these beings were human in phsyical form yet not of this Earth.

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Postby Ace Rimmer » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:37 am

Hi Dave welcome to the forum. Your theory fits right in, we have a topic about that episode going.

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Postby Jimmy7070 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:33 pm

If the so called angels are wearing helmets and breathing CO2 instead of O2 then they can't be made in our image as they aren't made to live in our atmosphere. Something is out of wack here.
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Postby Ninjabones » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:02 pm

I didn't say Co2 instead o2. I was merely pointing out maybe they couldn't breathe Earths air. They can still look human, just breathe a different air. Also these depictions could be that of first sight of said 'angel', where they would have a helmet on.
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Postby Moon » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:12 pm

The helmet question might have a possible solution here:

They could of worn helmets and protective gear as to not get contaminated until they found out what types of harmful germs there are on this planet. Also, they would not want to contaminate Earth either.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:20 pm

maxmercury wrote:The helmet question might have a possible solution here:

They could of worn helmets and protective gear as to not get contaminated until they found out what types of harmful germs there are on this planet. Also, they would not want to contaminate Earth either.
That is what I always thought too and Girogio just said the same thing on Coast to Coast the other night. Anybody landing on another planet would want to be protected and sure they could breathe the air before they took off their helmets. And germs would have been an issue as you say, as well.
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Postby galidor » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:19 pm

I’m completely fascinated by this whole “angels” as ET’s idea, and some friends and I were discussing this today after listing to a Giorgio on Coast to Coast.

Anyway, we were wondering (and none of us are hard core religious researchers) where the idea of the Archangels (Gabriel, Michael, etc.) representing “elements” came from? Maybe someone here knows, is it Biblical, or some sort of New Age/Wicca/Fantasy literature idea? The reason behind this is that the angels apparently have a rank structure, so we discussed the theory that perhaps, the “archangels” are interpretations of science mission leaders. For instance if you find a planet to survey, you are going to send teams of researchers that will study the water, they will study the air, they still study the ground, they study volcanism and tectonic activity, everything. Now to a primitive group of people who have zero understanding of what they are witnessing, they would see an “angel/god” overseeing lesser “angels/gods” that came down from heaven who have an active interesting in gathering water and looking at fish that lived in it. Over time and with oral traditions the story could easily morph into the idea that there is a great “archangel/god” on high that has been given command over the waters.

As for space helmets, YES that’s a must, you would wear some kind of protective suits until you had everyone inoculated against the various microbes on the planet. I work in a hospital setting, so I know that you can’t just step off your ship like they do in “Star Trek” onto an alien planet, take deep breaths and still be living 30 seconds later. There are countries here on Earth that you don’t travel to without getting half a dozen inoculations, let alone stepping onto the surface of an alien planet without a breathing apparatus. I'm going to have to give this idea that the halo's in medieval paintings represent some sort of protective "helmet/biological agent force field" some more thought.

Anyway sorry for rambling, it’s all Giorgio’s fault, listening to him has put my imagination and thoughts in high gear. :D
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Angels

Postby Bob137 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:55 pm

Welcome to the forum. In regards to angels or Gods, or God, if they wore gear of any sort, and were of a physical nature, it is hard to believe that they were actual angels or Gods, or God of any sort, just advanced beings from someplace else, which came hear for their own reasons, from creating hybrid beings to sexual intercourse with hybrids, to creating even more sophisticated, and sometimes monstrous hybrids, and doing ungodly experimentations with us hybrid humans, and our very planet! For me, any being that claims itself to be God, or an angel, or messiah, and is of a material existence, is neither, but a phony impostor, and was, or is here to manipulate humans! Do not get me wrong, I do believe their is a GOD and angels, and I do believe in GOD and angels, in fact, I have no doubt. I just do not believe of a GOD or angels in the biblical sense, or the Islamic, or Hindu, or Buddhist, or any other sense of a material existence. It is not to say that, if someone has proof otherwise, that I would not consider it, but as to date, from ancient civilizations to the present, I have not found any of a material existence as of being of GOD or Angels!
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Re: Angels

Postby lunarwing » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:27 am

Bob137 wrote:In regards to angels or Gods, or God, if they wore gear of any sort, and were of a physical nature, it is hard to believe that they were actual angels or Gods, or God of any sort, just advanced beings from someplace else....


Exactly!
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Re: Angels

Postby Polaris » Thu May 19, 2011 9:17 pm

Bob137 wrote:Welcome to the forum. In regards to angels or Gods, or God, if they wore gear of any sort, and were of a physical nature, it is hard to believe that they were actual angels or Gods, or God of any sort, just advanced beings from someplace else, which came hear for their own reasons, from creating hybrid beings to sexual intercourse with hybrids, to creating even more sophisticated, and sometimes monstrous hybrids, and doing ungodly experimentations with us hybrid humans, and our very planet! For me, any being that claims itself to be God, or an angel, or messiah, and is of a material existence, is neither, but a phony impostor, and was, or is here to manipulate humans! Do not get me wrong, I do believe their is a GOD and angels, and I do believe in GOD and angels, in fact, I have no doubt. I just do not believe of a GOD or angels in the biblical sense, or the Islamic, or Hindu, or Buddhist, or any other sense of a material existence. It is not to say that, if someone has proof otherwise, that I would not consider it, but as to date, from ancient civilizations to the present, I have not found any of a material existence as of being of GOD or Angels!


Wow, that is one twisted mind you have there. Malevolence does not suit you.
Could the Ancient Aliens have had a different definition of the word GOD and could a modern day equivalent be SENSEI. Bob, much of what you write relates to the Sumerian script (and their attitudes), there are four older civilizations on this earth who's history predates anything out of sumeria...

It is the material world that we must learn to master, in order to progress, otherwise it'll be 'sink or swim' time...

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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Bob137 » Thu May 19, 2011 9:37 pm

Why is it twisted to believe GOD is of the Cosmic Consciousness, and not a material being? Just because religion states otherwise, does not make it a fact, just heresay, and their beliefs. I have the right to believe anyway I wish, and I have had a spiritual experience with GOD, and from that experience, GOD let me know what GOD is and is not. You can believe anyway you wish, and believe as others tell you to believe if you wish, but I for one, do not blindly follow the blind, or just believe everything I am told to believe, or everything I read, or even see. There has been much manipulation through history to sway people to believing certain ways, and I have researched such information for over 3o years, I did not come to these conclusions half heartedly, or by just wondering aloud, or from someone telling me what to believe. I learned from experience, compassion, humility, empathy, research, and with an open mind, always with an open mind.
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Moon » Fri May 20, 2011 4:39 pm

I think it is logical to assume that if the beings wore a suit to keep from contaminating (or being contaminated) the Earth. A supernatural being would not have to worry about that.

I am not saying all the gods and goddesses mentioned were ancient astronauts, but some of the beings described do fit a definition. Wearing a space suit would fit such a definition.
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Memoria » Fri May 20, 2011 6:32 pm

maxmercury wrote:I think it is logical to assume that if the beings wore a suit to keep from contaminating (or being contaminated) the Earth. A supernatural being would not have to worry about that...



Maybe it was just a fashion craze they were going though at the time? Image
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby AnuAtlantian » Fri May 20, 2011 8:11 pm

I like this topic,
Its true that the Anunnaki showing up to people in the biblical time are called Angels with their jet pack like flight gear and helmet. Like jet fighter pilots need a breathing gear for the right air supply in high speed flight. Wings, Garments and sandles like burnished brass, with the faces of men the angels are described.

I do believe in a cosmic God creator and the spiritul realm. For me the angels are the ancient astronauts, the Anunnaki people as emissary angels. This is how you would call then if you lived in the biblical time thousands of years ago.

( Biblical quote- God will return on a Celestial Chariot and its eyes will be blinking ) - The gods(people from the heavens(space) or Angels(people called anunnaki) will arive on a Spacecraft with blinking lights.
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Re: Angels

Postby Polaris » Fri May 20, 2011 11:28 pm

Bob137 wrote:Welcome to the forum. In regards to angels or Gods, or God, if they wore gear of any sort, and were of a physical nature, it is hard to believe that they were actual angels or Gods, or God of any sort, just advanced beings from someplace else, which came hear for their own reasons, from creating hybrid beings to sexual intercourse with hybrids, to creating even more sophisticated, and sometimes monstrous hybrids, and doing ungodly experimentations with us hybrid humans, and our very planet

Bob I should have been a little more specific, rather than making a generalized statement, apologizes... this I think Sitchin also wrote about.
Bob137 wrote:... For me, any being that claims itself to be God, or an angel, or messiah, and is of a material existence, is neither, but a phony impostor, and was, or is here to manipulate humans! Do not get me wrong, I do believe their is a GOD and angels, and I do believe in GOD and angels, in fact, I have no doubt. I just do not believe of a GOD or angels in the biblical sense, or the Islamic, or Hindu, or Buddhist, or any other sense of a material existence.

Malevolent is a bit harsh, it certainly is negative - which was more my intent - is certainly a rejection of christianity and much of its recent history. I do think it is a bit unfair to lump Hinduism and Buddhism in with 'Judaism's children'. I have read in previous strings that Buddhism is more philosophy than religion.
Bob137 wrote:...It is not to say that, if someone has proof otherwise, that I would not consider it, but as to date, from ancient civilizations to the present, I have not found any of a material existence as of being of GOD or Angels!

Gods and Angels are the Ancient Aliens, written about in the scriptures, they are the ones that built all these ancient cities, it's been proven we do not have the technology (at least not yet)... I'm convinced!

Ningabones Dave welcome, all the ideas, thoughts and evidence you've provided "hits the nail right on the head", you'll find like minded people here - some crazier than others :lol:
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Bob137 » Sat May 21, 2011 6:35 am

I leaned of a Cosmic Consciousness long before I read what the Anunnaki believed, they just happened to copy what I knew! :lol: Yeah sometimes my daughter says I am old.
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby mobious13 » Sat May 21, 2011 5:53 pm

I'll be going to the University of Penn museum, to check out the Sumerian exhibit again, and re-inspect some of their artifacts.
Maybe i'll see something insightful. I'll take pics if I can and post them.
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Bob137 » Sat May 21, 2011 10:38 pm

Mobius that would be great, enjoy it why you are there.
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A short analyzes of the Angels in the Bible, Titles and rank

Postby phoenix » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:12 pm

This analyzes covers the colonists (angels) that we can read about in the bible, the pseudepigrapha and in the Apocrypha.

The above literature describes a multitude of alien “Gods” that was busy colonizing earth in the past. According to Moses (LOTJ) they were a total of 22000 aliens, and according to my investigation ,the colonization of earth (as we can read it in the Bible) took place some 24500bc and ended some 12000 bc. The last alien colonists (that we know of from the Bible) , left earth at the time of Joshua. This was the group of colonists that created the Hebrews and founded the nation of Israel. At least four generations of alien colonists participated in the EC-project.

First generation: The triad (The father, the son and the holy spirit). This generation was on earth before the creation of Adam and eve.

Second generation: The ogdoad.(A group of eight ministers). From the time of Adam and Eve until the great flood. Also called the titans in greek mythology. It was this generation who fought a war against the demons and giants . (The gigantomachy)

Third generation: The Dodekatheon. (A group of twelve ministers). Also called the Olympian Gods in greek mythology. After the great flood. This group of ministers came to power after a war with the second generation (Titanomachy). It was from this war that Atlantis was sunk after being hit by a nuclear missile.

Fourth generation: The offspring of the third generation. This group of aliens eventually lived entirely amongst human beings and married them. This generation produced the heroes and demi-gods that we can read about in greek mythology. Osiris (An Egyptian king) belonged to this generation. This generation never left earth.

The top leaders (ministers) running the earth colonization project were politician’s, and they controlled the project by use of a strong military presence , strict prime directives and laws.

YHVH/IHVH
Most people do believe that these letters are the name of God. I find that hard to believe. In the Hebrew book of Enoch, a lot of colonists are mentioned by name. Next to the names of all these aliens, the letters YHVH are written, like for example Michael,YHVH, Gabriel,YHVH and so on. In the book of Zohar the letters IHVH are also separated by periods like this I.H.V.H. It therefore looks to me that these letters are not a name, but an abbreviation, like NASA is short for National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Some texts seems to indicate that YHVH/IHVH has something to do with the four fixed zodiac signs , or the four faces on the Shekinah (Man, Ox, Eagle and Lion).

The political leaders (The Ministers)

The leaders were those aliens responsible for leading the project. They were titled Thrones. In the Bible they were also called Ministering angels, because that’s what they actually were. They were political ministers , each with responsibility for a special field (for example the angel of the sea; Rahab). The names of the thrones are as far as I know unknown because they kept a strict policy not to reveal their names and not to show themselves to human beings.

Metathron

This title means ; next to the throne. A Metathron’s job was some sort of second in command or executive officer. A Metathron was ranked after the ministers and archons an he took orders from them and passed them on to the lower ranked officers and made sure they were executed. Metathron was also called angel of the face.

The Senior officers (Archons)

Those were the officers called Archons (Archangels). They are also titled Lord’s in many texts. The most known of these officers are Michael/Palit (Executive commanding officer, second in command), Gabriel (Army chief), Uriel (Head of scientists), Raphael/Labbiel (Head of medicin), Chamuel (security chief), Anael/Hanael (biology), Jophiel (arts,culture), Zadkiel (priest), Raquel (councellor), Remiel (judge), Zariel (Judge), Raziel (teacher/scientist), Azrael (Judge), Sandalphon (Guide, ambassador) .

The Princes

Those were the seventy colonists that were appointed mediators for each of the seventy nations after the great flood. We don’t know many of those names except for ; Uzzah(Egypt) and Dubbiel (Persia). Those princes are also sometimes referred to as guardian angels or tutelarian angels.

The lower ranked officers (Powers and Rulers).

Those were the colonists that were in command of smaller groups of different workers and military personel like groups of soldiers, chief of engineers, chief of security, chief of mechanic and so forth. They were often called Powers and Rulers.

The soldiers

The soldiers were often referred to as Angels of destruction or Angels of death. Alien Colonists (mostly plain soldiers) on special missions on earth to aid human being were also referred to as guardian angels.

The wings of the angels

The reason those ancient myths assigns wings to those colonist's are most likely because that was the obvisous solution to the author's to somehow explain that those people were extraterrestials and came from "heaven". But there are yet another explanation to those wings. In ancient texts we can read that Archons (Samael) had eight (or twelve) wings assigned to his shoulders. in another texts we can read that Metathron had twelve (or eight) wings assigned to his shoulders. Those were not real wings as of birds. Those were officer distinctions. Even military officers today have wings on their shoulders.

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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Polaris » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:10 pm

Phoenix, I can't wait for the novel...

While I do not doubt your interpretations of the hierarchy, it is IMV a bit too restrictive... there are billions of people on the planet where these aliens come from, the Sumerians called it Nibiru. These aliens have been on this earth for millions of years...

The current age we are in now started ~28,740 BC...

I thought the bible only went back to Noah ~6169 BC or ~10,308 BC.
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby GregP » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:17 pm

This is an interesting post (and forum). I like reading everyones ideas and theories.
However i think we should consider the possibility that the reverse is true - the possibility that what we think are aliens from other planets are really fallen angels.
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Moon » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:30 pm

GregP wrote:This is an interesting post (and forum). I like reading everyones ideas and theories.
However i think we should consider the possibility that the reverse is true - the possibility that what we think are aliens from other planets are really fallen angels.


That is a good point and there are many who believe that.

I do think it could be both: Extraterrestrials and very powerful mystical beings from the Otherworld who are here to help humankind.

I don't believe in the extraterrestrials are demons or devils idea.
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Polaris » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:21 pm

GregP, are you suggesting random travellers that were stranded?, aka fallen angels
It's MV that,
Good vs Evil
Ying vs Yang
Light vs Dark
A balance must be found - it is the nature of life, including the sumerian gods (those from 7).
Thus there are good and bad angels - we just got to figure out who's who.

If you do mean stranded, there was an incident in SW America (Arizona/N. Mex)ish where some guys took in a truly fallen angel (aka alien) and nursed him back to health - he (the alien) told a truly incredible tale of the solar system and our galaxy...
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Bob137 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:41 pm

Is there a book out on that, or a link to a site on the web about this supposed fallen angel was nursed back to health, and what was the story that was told?
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Polaris » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:39 am

Bob137 wrote:Is there a book out on that, or a link to a site on the web about this supposed fallen angel was nursed back to health, and what was the story that was told?


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_20c.htm

Keep in mind I think that the grandson sees an opportunity, so just stick to the grandfather's story...
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Re: Misinterpreted Angels

Postby Bob137 » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:26 am

Thanks for the link. From that link, I went to the papers, and read much interesting information, which I had read some of before, just wasn't sure if it was of the same information at first, but it was. I read from his grandfather's papers before, and from another HOPI Grandfather's information, and they do coincide with each other. I must admit, I do like their version of our history and Ancient Aliens better than others.
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