Randyrrr wrote: Again, Sand gives you a pitted finish. I have worked with it.
Go to a granite work shop that makes counter tops and so on.
No mirror finish.
Not on granite. Maybe on softer stones.
The Egyptians never polished granite to a mirror finish. They did with obsidian, I believe.
Please note that sandstone polishing stones of a variety of sizes have been found in Egypt.
Also:
In some cases, the final stages of polishing would involve the use of loose abrasives. In modern times, generally coarse abrasives would be used first and applied with a soft lap (e.g. cloth or leather) in the case of softstones (i.e. rocks with minerals having hardnesses less than or equal to 3 on Mohs' Scale) or a hard lap (e.g. stone, wood, pitch, or copper/bronze/iron) for hardstones (i.e. rocks with minerals having hardnesses greater than or equal to 7 on Mohs' Scale). The ancient Egyptians would most likely follow similar techniques. The grain size of the abrasive would be reduced as the polish became finer. Metal oxides make ideal lapping abrasives, such as quartz (SiO2) and corundum (Al2O3), as well other material such as charcoal and pumice could also be used. The abrasive chosen would be dependent on the type of rock being polished. Quartz abrasive will work on rocks that contain quartz and feldspar; softstones would require abrasives with lower hardnesses than quartz so that control during the final stages of polishing could be more easily obtained. Quartz was readily available to the ancient Egyptians, but corundum (emery) appears to only be obtainable in sufficient quantities in late ancient Egyptian history (Lucas & Harris 1962, Arnold 1991).
Source:
http://www.gizabuildingproject.com/art_solenhofen4.phpThat linked page has many links to the Petrie Museum of Egyptian Archaeology. If you want to see some of these polishers, click on one of the links.
In the search box at the Petrie Museum page, type in the UC number that was given on the page I linked to.
From the same linked site, a depiction of Egyptian sculptors using pounding stones and polishing stones with abrasives - taken from the tomb of Rekhmire.:
Randyrrr wrote: These Granite blocks are 40 feet long, some of them even longer, ground to 10,000 of an inch. from one end to the other.
Do you understand what that means?
Sand did not give them that finish.
Obelisk 400 tons was not moved with ropes, Maybe there small stones1-5 ton but not 200 to 400 ton blocks.
For one thing an obelisk would break under and angeled preasure, such as a pivit stone.
Have you ever seen one of these Obelisk's?
Have you ever seen the pyramids in person?
Your claims have no basis in reality. Sorry
So, the 1500 ton "thunderstone" was not moved by humans? Even though it happened in recent history?
This is a "basis in reality" to anyone that cares about what reality actually is.
Randyrrr wrote:
What saws, The egyptians say there was no saws?
These sawmarks say they used saws:
The use of saws as a method of cutting rock is inferred from marks observed on ancient Egyptian stonework, including pieces of waste rock and finished and unfinished stone objects. Many of these marks have been found, usually observed as grooves cut into surfaces of rock or as striations on cut surfaces (Petrie 1974, Lucas and Harris 1962, Arnold 1991, Stocks 1999; 2001). For examples: a) Saw marks on greywacke "schist" leaf-shaped bowl (1st Dynasty, Emery 1972 (pl. 39a)). b) Chevron-shaped sawing marks on Sekhemkhet's travertine (alabaster) sarcophagus (3rd Dynasty, Goneim 1956). c) Saw marks on the lid of the granite sarcophagus of Meresankh (3rd Dynasty, Lucas and Harris 1962). d) Saw marks on the granite portcullises of the Great Pyramid (4th Dynasty, Petrie 1974). e) Saw marks on the granite sarcophagi of Khufu and Khafre (4th Dynasty, Petrie 1883).
Source:
http://www.gizabuildingproject.com/art_solenhofen6.phpRandyrrr wrote:
They say they used rope and sand.
I am providing sources. Where are yours?
Randyrrr wrote:
They say that stones, fire, water and wood were used to break granite free from pits.
Do you understand how heavy 400 tons (800,000 Lbs) is?
Sorry but I think not.
Sorry that you think not. Perhaps you should try it.
Granite was quarried using fire and pounding stones (diorite.) Granite slabs were then shaped with saws, pounding stones, and polishing stones using fine sand as an abrasive.
The harder a stone is, the finer the polish that can be achieved.
Randyrrr wrote:
They had some other technelogy, some other tools and some help from someone or something.
Enoch was the master. The house of stone built to hold information and last thru times end.
A house of brick was also built with a copy of this information.
Enoch, read everything he supposedly wrote, everything you can find on him.
That should answer some questions for you. Even the ability to locate the house of stone(pyramid).
Enoch? Really?
Are you a fundamentalist?
Randyrrr wrote:
You are not allowed inside those tumbs anymore, you are not allowed to take pictures in the Museum.
The Temple at Dendera is not a tomb, and, as far as access to the interior goes:
The Dendera Temple complex spreads out over an expansive 40,000 square meters, or more than 430,000 square feet, its ruins enclosed by a solid mud brick wall. The Temple of Hathor is far and away the main attraction here; it's a hugely magnificent and magnificently huge square structure that looks every bit as ancient as it is. Inside, visitors to the Temple of Hathor explore the structure's various imposing halls and its associated necropolis. One thing that unfortunately can't be seen here is the Dendera Zodiac, for while it was initially found in this temple of Dendera, it's today displayed in full grandeur at the Louvre in Paris.
One of the best things about the Dendera Temple as it stands today is that the vast majority of the structure is open to visitor exploration. Local authorities have done well to allow tourists here a sensible amount of free reign, and as a result visitors often rank a trip to Dendera as top of their list of most enjoyable things to do while in Egypt. The site also includes such tourist provisions as a coffee shop and eatery, a bazaar for shopping, and a well-equipped visitors center that fills you in on the site's unique past.
As with the archaeological site of Abydos, Dendera is normally treated as a day trip out from Luxor, with service taxis running routes from the latter to the former and back again. Some Luxor hotels also organize tours to the site, with coaches or river boats the preferred mode of transportation. Such tours provide an eminently relaxed way of visiting the Temple of Hathor and its sister attractions, as you don't have to worry about organizing anything.
Source:
http://www.destination360.com/africa/egypt/denderaAlso, you haven't been allowed to take pictures in
any museum of any note for thirty or forty years now.
Randyrrr wrote:
You can walk around the out side but you are not allowed inside anymore.
That has been for some time now.
Randyrrr, you keep making many assertions here without any evidence to back up your claims. I linked to a page with an overview of touring the interior of the Hathor Temple at Dendera. Can you show us that this temple is now closed to the public?
If it has, it had to be very recently - and I don't mean as recent as the current strife there. I mean, obviously they may have it closed right now.
Flickr, webshots, photobucket, etc. are full of pictures of tourists standing inside this very temple.
There writing is artwork, Do you see any alphabet?
Hieroglyphics are pictures.
Of course. Silly me.
Here's a pic showing more of the writing in question:
Obviously, Seti I's airforce was chased down by giant bees. Little did they know they'd been outflanked by a giant cobra and a giant vulture - shown to the right of the image (part of them has fallen off.)
They were trapped, the giant animals ate all the airplanes and helicopters, and that explains why there was no evidence left.
In truth, what was previously posted is a photoshopped image. Unretouched, it looks like this:
It is a palimpsest. Ramesses II came in and replastered over the Nebty name of Seti I (his father.)
There's no question this is the Nebty name of both kings.
Do you know what a Nebty name is?
I think not.
The middle row of glyphs below shows the Nebty name of Ramesses II:
Here's a depiction of Seti I's Nebty name:
I'm certain that you won't admit that many of the glyphs in these two names are shown overlapping in the "helicopter" picture.
I think I understand why our children are in trouble.
I now see what you all mean. K.I.A.
If you have children, they are definitely in trouble.
Perhaps you should put them in contact with me. I can provide facts, evidence and background that easily explains away your fantasies about ancient Egypt.
Hearte
by Ace Rimmer » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:57 am 
