nephilim evidence

[Moon]

I looked at the seal and it is neither of Max's reference to a star nor a sun! In fact, with six points it sure looks like our sun to me. Science now describes our sun as a star.

As I see it, there are 12 objects in space around the sun, 11 (how many do you guys see?) in near orbit and 1 afar. Therefore, 12 + the sun = 13. The familiar themes begin from here...

And to answer a related query Max, the other large objects in the 'outer reaches' that are worthy of being called planets, they take such a long time to come back to perihelion that it is more of a nuisance for them to be placed into the orbital calendar. And they likely have very little gravitational effect on earth's, by virtue of them being so far out...

To refer to it as a Sun is a mistake on the part of anyone who translates it. The symbol for the Sun is a very unique one and they would of put in the wavy lines to make sure that is what they meant. One cannot claim that symbol shown in the tablet is the Sun.

The thing about the outer planets is they included a tiny object like Pluto and forgot about its companion, Charon. They would of mentioned something about the double planet if it was meant to be included. I can see omitting the other outer planets if they omitted Pluto, but they supposedly included it in that one tablet.

It really boils down to one tablet that shows the alleged nine planets if one interprets it that way. I have listed enough questions and evidence to put pause in that translation. Whether people want to interpret it as our solar system is up to them, but I do think they need to see all the evidence out there before making a decision on it.

[Polaris]

AnuAtlantian's Time
432,781 BC Gods walked the earth
156,781 BC caveman primitive humans
150,000 BC birth of cro-magnon
6781 BC Adam (Seth 130 greg. yrs later)
5125 BC Noah's Tsunami (flood), time of demigod DNA
4000 BC start Egyptian (demigod) Pharohic dynasty
3000 BC Shem son of Noah
400 BC Moses Exodus from Egypt

AnuAtlantian's Shar Timeline
-(minus)120 - gods arrive on earth, start mining gold
-093 - Adam and Eve
-080 - genetically engineered Cro-magnon man
-040 - Annunaki stop mining and get humans to do it
-010 - Noah's mother is impregnated
0000 - the tsunami (Noah's Flood)
(before I go any further, a question - if Noah's mom had Noah at your time of the 110th shar and Noah's tsunami was 10 shar later, and a shar is 3600 solar years then that would mean Noah was 36,000 year old at the time of the flood!!) - Is this another position that is akin to the flat earth and earthcentric view of the universe?
0002 - Egyptian pyramids are built (approx. 4000 BC)
0002.27777 - Gilgamesh journeys to Nibir or a spaceship in an earth orbit (approx. 3000 BC)
0002.54861 - Abraham leaves Ur (approx. 2025 BC)

AnuA, you provide two dates for Noah's tsunami (flood), which in your view is the correct date?

Comming back
Thanks for the timeline polaris...If flood time was about 5000BC and

120th shar- the deluge flood, demigod offspring do survive and advance our DNA ( timeline has a 7000yr gap making flood about 11,000BC)
2 shars after flood -anunnaki built the pyramids, Nibiru King Anu visit end shar yrs, starts new demigod egyptian kings dynasty about 4000BC
1000 years later demigod king Gilgamesh journeys meets Ziusudra,Utnapishtim(Noah) under tunnels in Sinai peninsula. about 3000bc
750 yrs - 950yrs later is 2025bc time of Abraham, leaves Ur in Sumer(lower iraq), saved from a nuclear fallout. The Anunnaki war with Marduk
This is Sitchins Sumerian gods timeline...

[Bob137]

If one wants actual photographic evidence, that was not faked due to the computer age, all you have to do is go to your local library, look up, out of place and unusual artifacts, there is numerous books on the subject, and yes, documentation and photo's, that were not photo shoped of giants, and misshappen skulls. Of course one would actually have to go to the library to do this, instead of just looking on the web, but some of these books are very old, and have numerous scientists, and archeologists of old, that are the ones who found these objects, and at the time were at first ridiculed, (due to the Darwinian belief), but most were found by scientific investigation to be authentic, and not faked, so there is actual documentation that is old prior to the computers, that were not faked,a nd show proof of the existence of giants, and of elongated skulls, so for anyone to state that it is all done by photo shop is sadly mistaken, and has not been actually researching, other than on the web. This computer society believes and expects that all things real are on the web, but this just is not so! The libraries still hold a lot of information that is not on the web, and I suggest doing things the old hard way, may bring about more and better information, than just searching on the web! I read about these giants, and elongated skulls 20 years before the PC was even in peoples homes! To think this is something new, is actually out of place with reality! There are also giant bones and skulls in museums and other places, one just has to look for where they are, and go there to actually see the evidence!

[AnuAtlantian]

AnuAtlantian's Biblical Timelie
425,781 BC Gods walked the earth (432,000 yrs before the flood)
156,781 BC caveman primitive humans, birth of cro-magnon
6781 BC Adam (Seth 130 greg. yrs later)
5125 BC Noah's Tsunami (flood), time of demigod DNA
5123 BC Shem son, is born 2 yrs after flood
4000 BC Egyptian pyramids are built, Anunnaki King Anu and Antu visit earth (approx. 4000 BC)
4000 BC start Egyptian (demigod) Pharohic dynasty
3000 BC Gilgamesh journeys to Sinai Peninsula meets Noah(Ziusudra,Utnaphishtm) in tunels
2025 BC Abraham leaves Sumer city of Ur, Anunnaki leave Sumer also (Abraham is birth of the isrealites)
1575 BC Moses Exodus from Egypt around 400+ yrs later (israelites leave Egypt)

AnuAtlantian's Shar Timeline
120 - gods arrive on earth(Enki Enlil Ninmah +50 Anunnaki heros(astronauts), start mining gold - 432,000 years before the deluge
025 - battle of Anzu (evil Zu)
040 - first mutiny of Anunnaki miners and igigi(Anunnaki stationed on Mars)
080 - genetically engineered Cro-magnon man, Annunaki stop mining and get humans to do it
093 - Adam and Eve
110 - Noah's mother is impregnated, time of Nephilim Fallen Angels(igigi Anunnaki stationed on Mars mutiny)
120 - the tsunami (Noah's Flood)
(before I go any further, a question - if Noah's mom had Noah at your time of the 110th shar and Noah's tsunami was 10 shar later, and a shar is 3600 solar years then that would mean Noah was 36,000 year old at the time of the flood!!) - Is this another position that is akin to the flat earth and earthcentric view of the universe?

Here is the timeline with some adjustments Polaris, thanks this has been fun puting together

Your very right also Bob, being an oldschool guy myself. there has been many books before with many pics talking about the elongated skulls. The evidence is in museums showing mumies with these skulls,real half breed of the gods, real demigods. ofspring of Neteru(gods) and earthling.

[Bob137]

Neither one of those posts state anything in regards to the Nephilim? They need to be on a post of books of another nature of things, or alternative history.

[AnuAtlantian]

Well yes Bob these timelines show when the time of the nephilim(half breed) people born took place. Showing we are a Demigod of them also. I was in the midle of adding you in my post.

[Bob137]

I actually knew where they wee at in that information, just checking to see if you were going to add it in.

[Polaris]

Guys,
I do not doubt the truth of nephilim as defined as the children of human-annunaki parents, as I too am referred to as a mix of two human civilizations...

The notion that 1 shar = 36,000 years is utter nonsense.
And if you final believe it, your whole timeline will change/condense...
because 1 shar = 3600 days. And all the ancient writings with that count will have to be re-interpreted...

[AnuAtlantian]

i dont have a preference of which time can be correct, can be the biblical time where man before the flood can live 1000 yrs, or can be the Sumerian god Anunnaki shar year of 3600 years for 1 shar(3600 year orbit of Nibiru). The Sumerian Shar time of the gods tells of a long life before the flood, my theory of the ice crystal shield or canopy of water over the atmosphere blocked the cosmic rays and the family of Adam lived 1000 yrs. Also if the family of Adam is a demigod of Enki can be reason for the long life of the early generations of Adam.
If in shars then mankind before the flood (adam and eve generations) can live thousands of years old. adam shar story that he lived from 93rd shar to 108 shar= 54,000 yrs old. Noah(Ziusudra) born on the 110th shar was alive for the flood at 120 shar - 36,000 yrs old at the time of the flood and reported still alive to meet Gilgamesh about 3000BC.

As amazing the thousands of years Adam(Adapa) and Noah(Ziusudra) reported living, still unmatched to the long life of the original gods the Anunnaki that were very old living on Earth 432,000 years=120shars at the time of the deluge and still alive thousands of years after till leaving about 2024BC.

lets count that Sumerian story says Anunnaki came here about 445,000 years ago. So 432,000 is 120 shars till the flood, then 2 shars pass after the flood and Anu the king visits again, thats 7200 years later. From there shar years count ends and now using Earth years count. The time the Anunnaki left in 2024BC is I believe the number was about 1700 years after Anu visit. Adding about 10,000 years to the time after the flood to 2024BC then 4000 years till now =446,000

This can mean that the shar time indicated that the flood may have happend about 12,000BC. What throws it off is the 2 shars after the flood by 7000 years or it would be about 5000BC the flood happened by biblical timeline. So it makes us about 8500 yrs here by biblical time, or if Adam and Noah did live in the 93rd-adam, 110 shar-noah time we can be around from 114,000 years ago the homosapien Adam started.

Till I get more on the shar times, I like to go by biblical time of the years documented of the lifespan of the family of Adam. The gods have their life timeline and we have ours. The Nephilim days before the flood tells of us becoming more advanced, and the population of cave people of the Earth soon to be wiped out. Here is an interesting video all can enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDHp5Bdqh0c

[Polaris]

In order to understand history, a calendar has to be established to track time - the unit that the Ancients said to use was the day (sumerian) or kin (mayan).
The unit shar comes later...as do many others that are very interesting, IMV...
Religious dogma notwithstanding, and as your own research has revealed --- vatican doctrine --- cannot reconcile the facts (dates)!

More religious dogma is used to reconcile the events by making the units recorded in clay to a period that fits their only interpretation - irrational as it may seem.
Stories of long life have truth and it appears it diminishes with each generation.

Are you using Sitchin's shar conversion?
And does your shar and year calendars have the same BC date for the Sumer tsunami/flood?

Re: Adam being 15 shar old... 108 - 93 = 15 shar old! x 3600 days/shar = 54,000 kin divided by 365.2424 days/year = Adam was 147.847 years old.

Noah was 10 shar old when he built the ark = 3600 x 10 = 36000 kin = 98.565 years old.

[coomba98]

In the Bible Adam lived 930 years.
Noah lived around 950 years then died.

But from what I have read in the Gilgamesh text Noah is immortal like the Gods. As at that stage thousands of years had passed due to a consumption of a certain type of plant.

In my opinion the Flood occurred around 11,000 years ago. Then the Gods came back and decided to give the planet to man in stages.

Pol, I like your opinion on the Shar. As its only Sitchin that relates it to 3600 years. Due to the orbit of 'Nibiru'. Days as opposed to years is interesting. But if its an inner planet and it
took 3600 days to go around the sun then we would have seen it by now. Unless theres a known planet that takes that time to orbit to sun.

Also my opinion on the Number 12 is that it did not originate with the planets. This, again came from Sitchin. Otherwise everyone on the council of the Gods in every ancient region
of the world would be assigned a planet/sun/moon. 12 came from something else. Not the solar system. Would be fun to try and pin down the original reason for this but alas I think this
would be lost in time.

Have a good one all.

[Polaris]

In the Bible Adam lived 930 years.
Noah lived around 950 years then died.
But from what I have read in the Gilgamesh text Noah is immortal like the Gods. As at that stage thousands of years had passed due to a consumption of a certain type of plant.

In my opinion the Flood occurred around 11,000 years ago. Then the Gods came back and decided to give the planet to man in stages.

Pol, I like your opinion on the Shar. As its only Sitchin that relates it to 3600 years. Due to the orbit of 'Nibiru'. Days as opposed to years is interesting. But if its an inner planet and it took 3600 days to go around the sun then we would have seen it by now. Unless theres a known planet that takes that time to orbit to sun.

Also my opinion on the Number 12 is that it did not originate with the planets. This, again came from Sitchin. Otherwise everyone on the council of the Gods in every ancient region of the world would be assigned a planet/sun/moon. 12 came from something else. Not the solar system. Would be fun to try and pin down the original reason for this but alas I think this
would be lost in time.

Have a good one all.

- I would be interested in seeing those calculations on Adam and Noah, would you happen to know them?
- on what information do you base the sumer tsunami, a BC date would also be good
- Nibiru's orbital period is 13 CAPACS = 117,000 kin x 13 = 1,521,000 days (there is a +/- factor) = 4,164.36 haab or greg. yrs.
Sitchin was on the right track...and as Nibiru returns along its perihelion, it becomes visible in the day time sky. And the Sumerian-Annunaki would say to their slaves, "see that, that's where we're from..."

12 doesn't come from Sitchin, he builds on it, in some strings... so if you don't account for it - those theories would not stand scrutiny. There are twelve planets, plus the sun makes thirteen...

[coomba98]

Polaris,

The age of Adam in the Bible is:-

Genesis 5:5 which states:-
'{5:5} And all the time that passed while Adam lived was nine hundred and thirty years, and then he died.'

The age of Noah in the Bible is:-

Genesis 9:28 and 9:29 states:-
'{9:28} And after the great flood, Noah lived for three hundred and fifty years. {9:29} And all his days were completed in nine hundred and fifty years, and then he died.'

No calculations needed.

My date of the flood above is incorrect. It should be 11,000BC which is 13,000 years ago. Estimate. This is my personal guess and not fact.

Polaris, are you saying 'Nibiru' is an inner planet that takes 4,164.36 haab or greg. years? Doesnt it take longer to orbit the sun the further out you are? Sorry I just still cannot picture
Nibiru.

[Polaris]

Thank you. In other words, you haven't a clue as to how the authors of the bible derived the number of years, so written in the holy text.
Okay you've settled on 11,000 BC, so what is it that you are using to come up with that date.

Your logic is sound for all planets forming together in one solar system. When a gigantic watery planet is introduced, it brings its own mass (gravity) and all planets must adjust their orbits to accommodate...
Needless to say gravitational stability has been achieved, to a certain extent...

Imagine a planet between Asteroidia and Jupiter.
The 7th inner planet...it has many names...as recorded in the five civilizations of earth.
Its orbit is 13 Capacs long. As it has been for at least 3.962 billion years ago when crust first started to form, as the earth cooled...

[coomba98]

Polaris,

Hay, cannot say much as im about to leave soon.

The calendar used in the Old Testimate is based on the Jewish calendar of the lunisolar calendar. As per wiki:-

The Jewish calendar is a lunisolar calendar, or fixed lunar year, based on twelve lunar months of twenty-nine or thirty days, with an intercalary lunar month added seven times every nineteen years (once every two to three years) to synchronize the twelve lunar cycles with the slightly longer solar year. Each Jewish lunar month starts with the new moon. Although originally the new lunar crescent had to be observed and certified by witnesses, the moment of the new moon is now approximated arithmetically.

A year is still pretty much to year we use today. Just structured differenly. The Bible talks about years not Shars or the like. And a year is measured by one orbit of the planet around the sun.
(2Peter 3:8,10). "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day..."

To be honest like I said from the start of your 13 Capacs long theory still refers to Jupiter. So does cylinder seal VA243.

As per Wikis info on Jupiters moons:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_of_Jupiter

Eight of Jupiter's moons are regular satellites, with prograde and nearly circular orbits that are not greatly inclined with respect to Jupiter's equatorial plane. The Galilean satellites are spheroidal in shape, and so would be considered (dwarf) planets if they were in direct orbit about the Sun. The other four regular satellites are much smaller and closer to Jupiter; these serve as sources of the dust that makes up Jupiter's rings.

Jupiter's other 56 moons are irregular satellites, whose prograde and retrograde orbits are much farther from Jupiter and have high inclinations and eccentricities. These moons were probably captured by Jupiter from solar orbits. There are 14 recently discovered irregular satellites that have not yet been named.

So realisticaly Jupiter has 8+4 proper moons, thats 12 and the rest is just space junk that has been caught in Jupiters orbit..... Theirs that 12 number again. Plus the Sun... oh i mean planet.
And it also takes Jupiter 4,331.572 Earth days to orbit this sun. Aka. One year on Jupiter is Four Thousend Three Hundred and Thirty One point Five Seven Two Earth days.
4,331.572 Earth Days, Or 11.8673 Earth years.

Also planet wise, with the information I have I cannot grasp how a planet can be made of gas and have such tremendous gravity and such. Jupiter is our Solar Systems vacuum cleaner. Such as space debris (asteroids etc etc) gets caught in its pull. Remember the impact from an asteroids about 10 years ago to Jupiter. You can still see the impact marks from a telescope/satellite!!!
How can this be if it is a gas and not a solid? But thats another argument. In my opinion their is no such thing as a gas planet like that. Thats a solid all right.

Your comment:- 'Imagine a planet between Asteroidia and Jupiter.'
Have you read Kepler's Law?

Now in my opinion we know nothing of space and the universe in comparison to what is actually fact. Us, on this tiny planet, looking into the universe, we can only speculate. But that speculation is based apon very smart minds. But still, now most of what is known about the solar system and universe is really theory.

[maximus]

I think giants of 3000 years ago may not been as giant as you hope to find. This is what I mean, the average male in America is 5'10", taller than average height of pre-historic man. From 1918 to 1940 a man in Alton Illinois by the name of Robert Pershing Wadlow grew to 8'11" and 490 pounds . Now that is a giant. For someone to reach 7' , the average height of a NBA center today, 3000 years ago he would stand out. So I would think giants of old could easily not make big headlines today.

[AnuAtlantian]

Thank you guys for your input. True Adam was 930 and noah was 950 in the bible quotes till the flood the first family recorded ages. If the shar times are corect the flood happened 7000 yrs earlier than the bible tells. the bible is calculated as about 5000BC for the flood, so if the shar time is 7000 more yrs the flood was about 12,000bc. thats about the same time the author Graham Hancock of fingerprints of the gods says his estimate also.

the eqinox goes 72 years for 1 degree of earths axis times 30 is the time the constellation we are in can be seen every march 21st before the sunrise. 72x30= 2160 yrs the constellation pieces will be seen till next year 2012. then the dawn of aquarius 2013. 2160x12constellations=25,920 galactic new year. thats really what the mayan calendar shows. a galactic newyear dec 2012.

we are heading for a new golden age wher I hope to build my own vimana flying car with a mercury vortex engine, use water(HHO gas) for gas engines, make magnetic motors to run in cars and generate electricity for homes. Tesla coils for free wireless electricity, and also id like to purify earths water systems. These are the technologies not alowed but available for us to create. I look forward to the future.

I look forward to walk with the Elohim, the giants and angels of biblical time. The time of a return of the gods is comming very soon ,I feel it.

[Bob137]

we are heading for a new golden age wher I hope to build my own vimana flying car with a mercury vortex engine, use water(HHO gas) for gas engines, make magnetic motors to run in cars and generate electricity for homes. Tesla coils for free wireless electricity, and also id like to purify earths water systems. These are the technologies not alowed but available for us to create. I look forward to the future.

That is what I am hoping for also Anu! "Gotta get me one of those Space Ships though!

[Polaris]

Thank you guys for your input. True Adam was 930 and noah was 950 in the bible quotes till the flood the first family recorded ages. If the shar times are correct the flood happened 7000 yrs earlier than the bible tells. the bible is calculated as about 5000BC for the flood, so if the shar time is 7000 more yrs the flood was about 12,000bc. thats about the same time the author Graham Hancock of fingerprints of the gods says his estimate also.

the equinox goes 72 years for 1 degree of earths axis times 30 is the time the constellation we are in can be seen every march 21st before the sunrise. 72x30= 2160 yrs the constellation pieces will be seen till next year 2012. then the dawn of aquarius 2013. 2160x12constellations=25,920 galactic new year. thats really what the mayan calendar shows. a galactic newyear dec 2012.

we are heading for a new golden age where I hope to build my own vimana flying car with a mercury vortex engine, use water(HHO gas) for gas engines, make magnetic motors to run in cars and generate electricity for homes. Tesla coils for free wireless electricity, and also id like to purify earths water systems. These are the technologies not allowed but available for us to create. I look forward to the future.

I look forward to walk with the Elohim, the giants and angels of biblical time. The time of a return of the gods is comming very soon ,I feel it.

AnuA,
I mean no disrespect, as your ideas are closest to my own...
The authors of the bible achieved consensus and came up with the year calculation - I don't buy it!!! and neither should you! Who in the vatican can show the calculation???? How did they determine the age of Adam and Noah???? All C98 does is quote wiki and requotes the bible - he does not know either!!!

Your conflicting timelines just goes to demonstrate the incongruity of the various biblical count conversions and that they are guessing and pretending there is some semblance of believability...a patchwork of logic...

I have tested the calculation you use for precession (1 degree = 72 years), I believe 72 has been rounded up!!! the correct number is closer to 71.186 solar years... Experience has also led to the fact that it is better to use the ancient's calendar (360) rather than the solar calendar (365.2424)!!! And guess what 12 and 5 shows up there too!!

The Annunaki/Ancients/Home of the Gods/7th Planet/Point of Crossing/Nibir/Marduk will be returning when its orbit approaches its perihelion with our sun. My calculations have them returning en masse near Sun 6:Capac 10 or 5068 AD - it was last here at S5:C13 or 928 AD.

I'll take one of those rocket cars too! Hey free electricity...wasn't Tesla silenced for speaking such nonsense? Am thinking they haven't left...

Have you seen the reply to the Voyager message in the crop circles?

[cRush]

(2Peter 3:8,10). "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day..."

This is commonly misrepresented, most recently by Harold Camping, as saying that one day to God is as one thousand years on the Earth. Unfortunately, it takes a pretty grand reading comprehension failure to arrive at this conclusion. You have to completely disregard the second part of the sentence, "and a thousand years as one day".

This verse isn't meant to act as a conversion for years between God and man. It is meant to illustrate that God is not bound by time as we know it because he is everywhere at once in both space and time.

[AnuAtlantian]

I do like the biblical accounts of the ages of the family line of Adam, but your right, I believe the Shar time more and does show how history can be very long time ago for the sumerian gods. I do agree with other authors that the Shar time 3600yrs per shar showing that the flood time can be 12,000BC, thats 2 shars after the flood till about 3700Bc that anu came to Earth visit and about 1700 years later 2024BC the nuclear fallout calamity of the sumerians of lower iraq. The pyramids line up with the orions belt and leo constilation puting them built at the time of Leo.

The mystery of who realy are the Anunnaki? Our ancestors who geneticly created us in their image, who mated with us and made us demigods more in their image.
The Elohim/Angels that came down and took as wives the daughters of man, giving birth to Nephilim/Demigods, Are they as the fallen ones that came down the Nephilim known, and are we a Demigod offspring that some good like Noah(a Demigod) has survived the flood? I believe yes.
I know they(the Anunnaki) are the Biblical Elohim of the original Hebrew genesis for sure.
Also called the Angels of the bible. Enki and Enlil as the biblical yahway of torah hebrew and God(I am) of the christian religions.
As Ahura Mazda of the persian god of wisdom. As well as all other gods of mythology the Anunnaki, the Sumerian gods are known as.

Were they realy giants people with a elongated rear head and asian style eyes? or were they a interdimentional beings able to manipulate space time and mater? Are they both?
Did they create also the greys and the reptilians? Are the greys a bio-android being to scout and probe for them, or are the greys the Dropa?
Did they creat the Reptilian race and rebeled and now at odds with the Anunnaki? We have more work to do and find out. we all have fasinating info to share and pleased to interact with all of you, its been great.

I do believe in a creator cosmic god of the universe. The Anunnaki(our ancestors) are as the Angels of the Bible, a people of great power, technology, and flight, the emisaries of God the creator.

[cRush]

Did they create also the greys and the reptilians? Are the greys a bio-android being to scout and probe for them, or are the greys the Dropa?

Didn't the man responsible for introducing the Dropa stones admit it to be a grand hoax? Has more evidence surfaced lately that the Dropa stones are authentic?

[Bob137]

Anu I enjoyed how you put together the similarities, and your post sounded generally logical. I know as you there is so much more to find, to put all the pieces together. It is really ahrd to tell though if the Gods of one religion or peoples, was the same as others. It does seem to fit together, but there are differences, especially with Krishna, and Brahma, etc... Their ages are even older, than the Hebrew.

[Polaris]

I do like the biblical accounts of the ages of the family line of Adam, but your right, I believe the Shar time more and does show how history can be very long time ago for the sumerian gods. I do agree with other authors that the shar time 3600 yrs per shar showing that the flood time can be 12,000BC. That's 2 shars after the flood till about 3700Bc that anu came to Earth visit and about 1700 years later 2024BC the nuclear fallout calamity of the sumerians of lower Iraq. The pyramids line up with the Orion's belt and Leo constellation putting them built at the time of Leo.

With a shar being 3600 days, the flood has two plausible dates:
10,308 BC, Leo or
6,169 BC, Gemini
I'll leave it to those more knowledgeable in Sumerian script to confirm which...I point this out because you do not need shar to be 3600 yrs for a flood at around 12000 BC!! In fact it is the reverse.

...The mystery of who really are the Anunnaki? Our ancestors who genetically created us in their image, who mated with us and made us demigods more in their image.
The Elohim/Angels that came down and took as wives the daughters of man, giving birth to Nephilim/Demigods. Are they as the fallen ones that came down the Nephilim known, and are we a Demigod offspring that some good like Noah(a Demigod) has survived the flood? I believe yes.

I believe yes!

...I know they (the Anunnaki) are the Biblical Elohim of the original Hebrew genesis for sure.
Also called the Angels of the bible. Enki and Enlil as the biblical yahway of torah hebrew and God(I am) of the christian religions.
As Ahura Mazda of the persian god of wisdom. As well as all other gods of mythology the Anunnaki, the Sumerian gods are known as.

Were they really giant people with a elongated rear head and asian style eyes? or were they inter-dimensional beings able to manipulate space time and matter? Are they both?
Did they create also the greys and the reptilians? Are the greys a bio-android being to scout and probe for them, or are the greys the Dropa?
Did they create the Reptilian race and rebelled and now at odds with the Anunnaki? We have more work to do and find out. We all have fascinating info to share and pleased to interact with all of you, it's been great.

I do believe in a creator cosmic god of the universe. The Anunnaki (our ancestors) are as the Angels of the Bible, a people of great power, technology, and flight, the emissaries of God the creator.

The Christians do not believe what their own holy script tells them!! They think the Bible made of myth and imagination, stories used to teach lessons!! We are being deceived, it is NOT MYTH it is our real history!!!

The answer is yes to all your questions/suspicions, the Ancients have been here since time immemorial...and i'm sure we'll learn more of them as time goes on...
I think some of the work that has to be done includes recognizing the commonality of all of the world's major religions including the common calendar counts, cosmology, astronomy, astrology, gods, visitors.
The single most important fact that needs to be accepted is the existence of the 7th planet, with its perihelion (point of crossing) just outside the remains of the 6th planet.

[Polaris]

Polaris,
Hay, cannot say much as im about to leave soon.

The calendar used in the Old Testimate is based on the Jewish calendar of the lunisolar calendar. As per wiki:-
The Jewish calendar is a lunisolar calendar, or fixed lunar year, based on twelve lunar months of twenty-nine or thirty days, with an intercalary lunar month added seven times every nineteen years (once every two to three years) to synchronize the twelve lunar cycles with the slightly longer solar year. Each Jewish lunar month starts with the new moon. Although originally the new lunar crescent had to be observed and certified by witnesses, the moment of the new moon is now approximated arithmetically.

A year is still pretty much to year we use today. Just structured differenly. The Bible talks about years not Shars or the like. And a year is measured by one orbit of the planet around the sun.
(2Peter 3:8,10). "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day..."

To be honest like I said from the start of your 13 Capacs long theory still refers to Jupiter. So does cylinder seal VA243.

As per Wikis info on Jupiters moons:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_of_Jupiter

Eight of Jupiter's moons are regular satellites, with prograde and nearly circular orbits that are not greatly inclined with respect to Jupiter's equatorial plane. The Galilean satellites are spheroidal in shape, and so would be considered (dwarf) planets if they were in direct orbit about the Sun. The other four regular satellites are much smaller and closer to Jupiter; these serve as sources of the dust that makes up Jupiter's rings.

Jupiter's other 56 moons are irregular satellites, whose prograde and retrograde orbits are much farther from Jupiter and have high inclinations and eccentricities. These moons were probably captured by Jupiter from solar orbits. There are 14 recently discovered irregular satellites that have not yet been named.

So realisticaly Jupiter has 8+4 proper moons, thats 12 and the rest is just space junk that has been caught in Jupiters orbit..... Theirs that 12 number again. Plus the Sun... oh i mean planet.
And it also takes Jupiter 4,331.572 Earth days to orbit this sun. Aka. One year on Jupiter is Four Thousend Three Hundred and Thirty One point Five Seven Two Earth days.
4,331.572 Earth Days, Or 11.8673 Earth years.

Also planet wise, with the information I have I cannot grasp how a planet can be made of gas and have such tremendous gravity and such. Jupiter is our Solar Systems vacuum cleaner. Such as space debris (asteroids etc etc) gets caught in its pull. Remember the impact from an asteroids about 10 years ago to Jupiter. You can still see the impact marks from a telescope/satellite!!!
How can this be if it is a gas and not a solid? But thats another argument. In my opinion their is no such thing as a gas planet like that. Thats a solid all right.

Your comment:- 'Imagine a planet between Asteroidia and Jupiter.'
Have you read Kepler's Law?

Now in my opinion we know nothing of space and the universe in comparison to what is actually fact. Us, on this tiny planet, looking into the universe, we can only speculate. But that speculation is based apon very smart minds. But still, now most of what is known about the solar system and universe is really theory.

C98, it is 100% certain that the Ancients (sumerian gods) used ner (360) and shar (3600) there is a 60 day count also (not sure of its name) and I speculate that those who wrote and rewrote the Bible converted the 60, ner and shar counts into years (so as not to question their preposterous timeline)...

Agreed on the statistics of Jupiter (4330.595 kin/orbit), its mass is ~318 times that of earth and resultant gravity is only ~2.53 times greater - it is a solar system vacuum cleaner - NASA counts about 60+ satellites orbiting Jupiter. Your attempt to draw significance to twelve jovian satellites is admirable, wrt the eighth planet being a solid, it makes sense to me...the video of an asteroid hitting the 8th planet was pretty cool...

It is our misfortune that most of the remains of the sixth planet that reside in the asteroid belt fall inward towards the sun. Those that make it past Mars and the Moon have pummeled Earth since the solar system was created...as evidenced in earth's geological record.

wrt reading Kepler's Law - indeed I have! and our solar system does not fit the model!! Something was introduced at its creation to throw the whole thing out of whack - gee what could that have been?? Had to be something on a planetary scale?? Any ideas?

wrt facts of the known universe, there are lots of them and agreed there is more speculation - that's what keeps us coming back...

[coomba98]

Crush,

I know that quote of a 1000yrs being a day can be interpreted as misquoted. I think this is just a representation of how long the 'Gods' lived for compared to Man and Man Comparied to the 'Gods'.
Its actually limiting the lifespan of God in a way! But the quote or chapter in total im pretty sure talks about the end of days. Gotta read it in full again.

The full quote:-

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Kinda sounds like the our Sun going Supernova! Or a great atomic war.

I disagree with God not being bound by time and is everwhere at once in both space and time. I cannot remember the passage at this moment. I think it was Abraham who had to go to God and let him know about the sinning cities. And God, had to go their personally and see for himself these crimes! Himself, with his own eyes! Sounds....personal. NOT universal.

Anu,

Your dates pretty much match up with mine. Interesting your theory about the elongated heads and asian style eyes.

Polaris,

The supposed orbit of Nibiru coming through Jupiter and Mars is 3600 something. This time period of when it happens at that point is unknown. Just theories built apon theories. The flood in my opinion is definately not before 5000bc. As this is a world wide flood, not local. Therfore it pre-existed any culture we know of today. Damn, Babylon is the last and final major city of Sumeria. And it was dug out of how many metres into the earth? My estimate is 11,000bc. But that is an estimate from other expert opinions and research.

That picture you use of the solar system is I must say Awesome! But, unfortunately it is not to scale. Having said that I do not discount the possibility that a planet was or could have been in the area of the asteroid belt. By personal opinion is I dont know what this is made of but all scientific tests confirm that the astroide belt is made from the same minerals as earth. An impact from the early stages of the solar system is definately a possibility. But their is no evidence of what happened. Even the creation of the solar system, planet or sun or ect ect is theory. Not fact.

Just about 99% of what we know is knowledge passed on by another person. Theirs very little that we know that we have figures out ourselves. And thats working with the knowledge that has been passed onto us. What if said knowledge is manupulative? Then all outcome is false and in another direction.

[Polaris]

C98,
There you go again, paraphrasing Sitchin, 'Nibiru has an orbital period of 3600+ years or something' - Sitchin had it wrong
He reasoned as best he could that the ubiquitous 3600 shar meant 3600 years - it is days not years! - then he concluded that it must be Marduk's orbital period because of his prominence in Sumeria...

I have been trying to tell you, the Mayan set up codex-es for all the remains of the 6th planet and any object that comes near and buggers up our spin, orbital path or brings destruction (quakes, tsunamis, meteorites, etc)... That is what is the Mayan Sun Calendar is/was used for! And all the planets were marked at their perihelion - I postulate that they were tracking the 7th planet using their Capac count, their codex had it every 13 Capacs. Jupiter has a totally different orbital period and their codexes cannot be confused - as you would prefer...

I know the picture isn't to scale, I do not possess the knowledge to correct it...would be nice to see.

Sun system creation evidence is there, you just choose to ignore it... I've shown it to you on previous posts...and the story fits the facts and vise versa...

History is replete with people manipulating history/knowledge for their own purposes.

Your intransigence is indicative of the difficulty that the 1% of new knowledge has of being accepted...you are coming around a little

[coomba98]

Polaris,

My line in full was
The supposed orbit of Nibiru coming through Jupiter and Mars is 3600 something. This time period of when it happens at that point is unknown.'
I purposly put in something as their is some confusion about it being years or days. However the 3600 is common.
So no paraphrasing there. I still do not believe in Nibiru due to the lack of evidence. Sitchin did not say 3600 shars was 3600 years. He reasoned that 1 shar
equalled 3600 years.

Your Capac count does sound like Jupiter to me. Also im not saying that cylinder seal VA243 is Jupiter, im saying there is a
possibility it is Jupiter as opposed to the suppposed Nibiru that is not supported by ancient texts.

I think ive asked this question before but I dont think I got an answer. What Pre-Columbian studies have you done. Wouldnt
mind getting into some of it. More knowledge the better!.

Also about the 1% new knowledge. This is not really new knowledge to mankind. Most of the time is new knowledge to the person.

Have a good one.

[Moon]

Mr Sitchin's first book written in the 1970s states the orbit is around 3600 years and he uses passages from other histories as proof of its sightings. He may have changed his mind as more evidence came out, but there is nothing wrong with making some early errors when the work is still very much in progress. (Yes, I will defend Mr Sitchin as he was doing the best work he could with what he had and the knowledge out there on our Solar System.)

The ideas of the AAT is to have it evolve and grow, just like any other scientific idea out there.

BTW, Mr Sitchin also posited it was expected to return sometime around 2600AD, give or take a hundred years. The year 2012 is a new idea as that is a popular theme right now.

[Polaris]

Nibiru is the 7th planet, the home of the Ancients, its orbit is elliptical, its orbital period is 13 Capacs or 4164.36 greg. yrs. This is building upon Sitchin's work, IMV.

Sitchin's view that all life sprung from Eden was erroneous. It's my view that the people from Sumeria 'snuck in' to join the four other civilizations that were only being contemplated in the original design.

So according to Sitchin then 2600 - 3600 = 1000 BC = Nibiru's last crossing.

As I understand it, 2012 is supposed to be the end the Mayan count of 1,872,000 kin. IMV at the very least it needs to fall on the vernal equinox - that's one reason why I am skeptical about all the hype...

What I find fascinating is that Sumerian script of Nibiru's crossings was/is being tracked by the Maya - can that be considered independently verified?

[coomba98]

Polaris,
Hows it going.

Your quote:-
What I find fascinating is that Sumerian script of Nibiru's crossings was/is being tracked by the Maya - can that be considered independently verified?

What Sumerian script is this from? No doubt all celestial bodies seen on earth can be seen on all parts of the earth. But im not sure what Sumerian scripts talk
about the tracking of Nibiru never lone the Planet Nibiru itself. Excluding the Enuma Elish as this does not talk about a Planet Nibiru nor the tracking or a Planet Nibiru.

Have a good one digger.

[Polaris]

Before I can answer that, please answer this question,
Where were the Sumerian's Annunaki from?

[coomba98]

Polaris,

'Where were the Sumerian's Annunaki from.'

My Answer: Ultimately. I dont know! On a guess, I would say somewhere out in the Universe, aka not Earth. Most texts do not state where they come from apart from the skies or the Heavens/Universe.
However, some texts say they came from the East or the North or West or South, meaning they were already here. (Mostly East though)

But if you want a definitive answer, then it will be 'I dont know', just guesses and opinionated theories. Just that their were Anunnaki present on this Earth at some time in the past. And that their were stories written about them. Also I do not discount the possibility that they could be that, just stories. But more than 50% of me believes their more than just stories due to the evidence I have seen world wide.

Having said that if you breakdown the word Anunnaki it means:- Anunna:- Heavenly One/s, Ki:- Earth. So if you put it together Anunnaki means 'Heavenly One Earth'. My reasoning here is that they were the Gods who were born on Earth but the Annuna are the ones born on their home planet. Wherever that it.

Anunnaki are people like:- Innana, Shamash as they were born from a mother and father God from the 'Heavens' but conceived born on Earth.
Anunna are people like:- Enki, Enlil, Anu, Marduk, Ninurtra, Ninsun, etc, etc as they were conceived and born on their home planet or the 'Heavens'

But where is this place? I personally dont know. Thats one of the questions I would like to have answered.

Off to work now have a good one.

[Bob137]

In the Book Spiritual Technology of Ancient Egypt by Malkowski, he states that the earliest Sumerians came from lower Russia, and moved into the Eden region of Iran/Iraq, (Mesopotamia). In other words he states that from their ancient texts they came from north of Mesopotamia, and more or less the first Adam, might have been their First so called King, not made by God, but just the first King of that region, and that the story over time, got exaggerated to be where Adam was made by God. It is an interesting theory, and that the Annunaki had moved into the area first, and that they were the ones who appointed this first King, or (Adama). It still does not discount whether the Annunaki were Aliens, or a prior advanced civilization though? I am not sure if the information he uses of others findings are accurate descriptions, or whether it is just theories, and speculations, even though he writes them as though they are fact.

[Polaris]

The simplest answer, IMV, is the 7th planet.