Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby angeloneastralseed » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:01 pm

Every camera I take the picture with shows it, (my Mom's phone, my daughter's phone, my digital camera, my husbands phone) but only in negative. Doesn't anyone else on this forum have a cell phone or a digital camera to take the picture for themselves and see it? :shock:

I hear what you are saying about Elenin being too dim for the camera to pick up - so what would it be? I have taken pics of the sun before (for years now for fun) and have never seen anything like it. That's why I was shocked to see it there and wondered if it were Elenin.

Imma research some more....

So, I don't know how credible these are but worth watching:
1st one - I can't stand it when they add music (even tho I like Evanescence)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K2T4Mvr ... re=related

This one be patient with, it get really intriguing by the 7th minute. Once again dramatic presentation, but listen to the words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJXHYvww ... re=related

This is totally cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPwvEhaX ... re=related
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Pons Asinorum » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:41 pm

angeloneastralseed wrote:Every camera I take the picture with shows it, (my Mom's phone, my daughter's phone, my digital camera, my husbands phone) but only in negative. Doesn't anyone else on this forum have a cell phone or a digital camera to take the picture for themselves and see it?


You know what you are doing, Angel, but me -- I am a big chicken and fear for my eyes ;-).


angeloneastralseed wrote:I hear what you are saying about Elenin being too dim for the camera to pick up - so what would it be? I have taken pics of the sun before (for years now for fun) and have never seen anything like it. That's why I was shocked to see it there and wondered if it were Elenin.


No idea, but if the camera only picks up the image in the negative, that is most odd. A negative image contains the exact same information as the positive, only the bright/dark parts are inverted.

Note how the sun appears dark, as does the Elenin spot. In the positive image, they should both appear as bright spots.

Truly have no idea what is in the image, but perhpas it is some sort of artifact -- like a glare of the lens due to the sun, which is recorded as a dark spot in the negative. Does the positive image have a glare that corresponds to the spot on the negative image?


angeloneastralseed wrote:Imma research some more....

So, I don't know how credible these are but worth watching:
1st one - I can't stand it when they add music (even tho I like Evanescence)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K2T4Mvr ... re=related


Yeah, there it is -- in either positive or negative mode. If that is Elenin or Nibiru, then we are screwed -- its huge! :lol: Hopefully it is a reflection off the clouds, hopefully...


angeloneastralseed wrote:This one be patient with, it get really intriguing by the 7th minute. Once again dramatic presentation, but listen to the words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJXHYvww ... re=related


This one had a few false conclusions -- especially the 1984 US News and World report. That article was based on a book called the Jupiter Effect, which was another "end of the world" prediction that was supposed to come true in 1986ish.


angeloneastralseed wrote:This is totally cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPwvEhaX ... re=related


That was a cool video.

The only problem for me is that natural disasters occur in the hundreds every year, along with at least a few major ones. There might be a correlation (like, "every time I wear purple socks it usually rains"), but cause and effect...unless one is considering paranormal forces or some sort of advanced alien technology...oh... :shock:

;-)

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Thanks Angel, maybe someone will take your challenge and film it too. Who knows where this might lead. Most interesting.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby seeker1117 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:26 am

Yes,it would be great if several others with a cell phone with the "negative' photo capability figure out how to safely snap some pics at roughly the same time of day and compare. Another way to investigate this would be to find someone with a telescope that has a solar filter, or a dedicated solar scope, and ask them to take a peek and a photo or two. Looking forward to seeing how this unfolds!
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Buzi-Blu » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:51 am

It is an interesting puzzle. I tried taking a photo but my camera is not up to the job, the glare was too much.

But when I re-invert Angel's photos in Photoshop it does look like lens flare. That doesn't explain why it's appearing now and not previously. However, the object is quite large and bright in the positive images and the pink halo is quite characteristic of lens flare.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby angeloneastralseed » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:34 am

Thanks for all the info, Pons, you never can completely trust you tube or internet articles, but wasn't sure on some of the info. I knew someone here who does know more about Nibiru would come forward. :D

Is it true that Nibiru is headed our way? Does Nibiru have those type of effects on our planet? Did the last pole shift coincide with the last pass of Nibiru? What book on Nibiru is recommended, so I can learn some more on this? I will admit, that before this forum, I never looked into Nibiru, which is unusual for me, as I like to explore any possibility.

Thanks Buzi for taking a photo and posting it - As far as the spot, I'm going to lay it to rest as a sun spot since there is no other information out there on it and no other articles with the same questions - perhaps it's the way cameras are made these days as to why I didn't get it in the past (?) IDK, but I'm not going to make it something it isn't, that's for sure. :lol: I will press and issue to make sure all avenues are researched before I give up, but I do know when to give up and let the Occam's Razor law have one.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby cesarnc » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:20 am

Here are mine. First time I do this, so I apologize. I don't know why this brown area there. . But I got the "suspicious bastard" as well :lol:

Samsung Galaxy "something" Smartphone 2 megapixels, I think

Taken by 12:42pm local (15:42GMT) at S 23º - actually I'm just a few miles below the Tropic of Capricorn

I'll try to get some by sunset.

Three with 1x zoom and one with 3x zoom.

If someone has suggestions on how to improve them, let me know.

2011-09-13 12.42.35.jpg

2011-09-13 12.43.04.jpg

2011-09-13 12.44.49.jpg

2011-09-13 12.45.28.jpg
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Ace Rimmer » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:06 pm

This is all I have to say...
What the hell is that...
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Bob137 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:09 pm

Loved that SNL Steven Martin, and Bill Murray episode! Been a long time since I had seen that one. Thanks for the memories!
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Ace Rimmer » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:43 am

Bob137 wrote:Loved that SNL Steven Martin, and Bill Murray episode! Been a long time since I had seen that one. Thanks for the memories!

Your Welcome! Those were The Golden Years of SNL.

And really... what the hell is that in those pictures ?
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Sagittarii » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:29 am

I can't believe you guys are still talking about this. :D The image of an object next to the sun is merely a refraction in the lenses of the camera, not a comet. :lol:
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Gizmo » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:17 am

Sagittarii wrote:I can't believe you guys are still talking about this. :D The image of an object next to the sun is merely a refraction in the lenses of the camera, not a comet. :lol:


dont ruin our dreams :<
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby seeker1117 » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:22 am

Ah, man.....can't ya see? IT'S COMING RIGHT TOWARD US!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Pons Asinorum » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:18 am

Angeloneastralseed, I think what you did was awesome.

You had an idea, tested it, then challenged your own assertions (a trait shared by the greatest thinkers in history).

You rock Angel!

[Re: your Nibiru question -- You may be aware that in my opinion, Nibiru, as described by the late Mr. Stichin, does not exist. Although there may be a planet X beyond Neptune (something some scientists have long suspected), it shares none of the characteristics listed by Stichin. If you are interested in Nibiru, I am probably not the best person to ask ;-).
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1535&p=10059&hilit=Nibiru#p10059]

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You nailed it Buzi-Blu! I used your method for Cesarnc's pics (microsnot paint rather than Photoshop) and the best one was pic 3. The flare-artifact is quite prominent:

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Looks like flares all around.

It is easy to check:

    * copy one of the Angel's or Cesarnc's pics
    * open microsnot Paint,
    * paste into Paint
    * in the menu item list, click "image".
    * select "Invert Colors" from the drop down list

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Metaluna wrote:This is all I have to say...
What the hell is that...


omg :lol: I actually remember that skit (how old am I), thank you!
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby angeloneastralseed » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:19 pm

Thanks Pons, I always question my own assertions - I have to since I know I have the full capability of being wrong. :shock: Re: Nibiru - who proved it to not exist and what was the basis of proof? I would like to know since...well..I don't want to be wrong again. :D

Luna - you crack me up! I love SNL...still. But those were the best SNL days!

Thanks Buzi you are an awesome researcher - while I was researching the net, you were researching the evidence. :D And you were gentle with your findings.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Bob137 » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:33 pm

I know Comet Elenin is not going to hit earth, or probably anything else. I also know that Nibiru is probably a myth also. I also know that there is a red giant at the edge of our solar system, according to NASA, and other astronomical scientists. I also know that they have not detected it's path, either that, or they have not disclosed it as of yet. Could the red giant be Nibiru? Possibly.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby cesarnc » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:11 pm

Aldebaran and Antares are red giants at 65 and 600 light years from our Solar System respectively and we can see them

We would see a red giant at the edge of the Solar System.

*****

On Elenin, next alignment on Sept 26 / 27. If a big Earthquake happens I'll go shopping for calming pills :(
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Bob137 » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:25 pm

In ancient times up to the dark ages, Comets were considered as bringers of doom. Oh, No not Mr. Bill again! Help, it's Mr. Bill!
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby angeloneastralseed » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:06 pm

Image

If you look at this link, they do list the natural disasters with cosmic events and specifically Elenin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPwvEhaX ... re=related
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Bob137 » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:18 pm

We are having more natural disasters, but if we had some other comet a few years ago they would have stated they coincided at different times with those also. All they have to do, is say when it was at this location, this happened, and at this location, this happened, but whether it had anything to do with the disasters, since they have been happening a lot longer than since Elenin has been around here, is another thing. Our planet, and the others in our solar system, have been having a pull on them, long before Elenin was anywhere around here, so it is something else, that is pulling on Earth, and the other planets, and assisting with natural disasters, not that comet. Ain't that right Mr. Bill!
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby angeloneastralseed » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:31 pm

Natural disasters happen no matter what, but with the studies done by geologists, they can pin point that more natural disasters happen more frequently when comets come within our solar system. I check the space weather site every day, and we are getting much larger and much more frequent sun flares than usual.

http://www.spaceweather.com/

This video explains it quite well. This man has many good points and brings up good questions such as underground facilities -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9tJo5d4V94

Trust me - I am the first person who supports any funds going for the space program, but even I wonder why we are still planning on spending Billions of dollars to go to Mars when we as a Country are in dire need of funds. Don't get me wrong - I AM NOT Against it, just seems odd.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby cesarnc » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:31 am

From the Divine Cosmos - David Wilcock.

(...)Earth and solar system at large
were all undergoing tremendous, unprecedented change, which includes the
following ever-increasing trends:

A 410-percent increase in the overall number of natural catastrophes on
Earth between 1963 and 1993 (Dmitriev 1997)
• A 400-percent increase in the number of quakes on Earth (over 2.5 on the
Richter scale) since 1973 (Mandeville 1998)
• A 500-percent increase in Earth’s volcanic activity between 1875 and 1993
(Mandeville 2000)
• 9 out of the 21 most severe earthquakes from 856-1999 AD occurred in the
20th century (Russian National Earthquake Information Center, 1999)
• A 230-percent increase in the strength of the Sun’s magnetic field since
1901 (Lockwood, 1998)
• A 300-percent increase in the amount of “severe” solar activity than what
was formally predicted for the year 1997 alone (NASA 1998)

• 400-percent or higher increases in the speed that solar particle emissions are capable of traveling through the energy of interplanetary space (NASA 1997-2001)
• Recent magnetic pole shifts of Uranus and Neptune, as Voyager 2 observed
their magnetic axes being significantly offset from their rotational axes

(Dmitriev 1997)
• Visible brightness increases now being detected on Saturn (Dmitriev 1997)
• 200-percent increase in the intensity of Jupiter’s magnetic field from 1992
-97 (Dmitriev 1997)
• 200-percent increase in the known density of Mars’ atmosphere encountered
by the Mars Surveyor satellite in 1997 (NASA 1997)
• Significant melting of Martian polar icecaps in just one year, clearly seen in
satellite photography (NASA 2001)

• Significant physical, chemical and optical changes on Venus, including a
sharp decrease in sulfur-containing gases in its atmosphere and increasing
brightness (Dmitriev 1997)
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Bob137 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:30 am

As what Cesarnc pointed out, these natural disasters have been increasing for some time, not from effects from the comet, also the suns solar flares are a cycle that was predicted many years ago, not from a comet coming into our solar system. There seem to be coincidences, but they could tie in with almost anything. One could tie solar flare activity, and plasma releases with the same dates and time events, and state that those are all caused from our sun acting up. The truth is, everything is changing, and has been for a long time, and will probably continue to do so. The comet just happens to be coming through our solar system at the time of many of these, (just not all of them since they began, and will be long gone when they finally come to an end)! So to me, the comet is just another comet, otherwise all comets would create natural disasters, which they do not, they just are more of a way to keep track of times and what was occurring when they passed through our solar system, but does not mean they caused the disasters, just that when people recorded the comets coming through, there were also natural disasters happening, (and humans freaking out over the comets as harbringers of doom).
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby seeker1117 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:46 pm

Wilcock's latest book touches on the fact that we are coming to the completion of one of those major 26,000-year galactic cycles, and THAT fact has a lot to do with all these changes/catastrophes/etc happening at such an accelerated pace. Every time the earth has been through one of these cycles, major upheaval followed by major evolution seems to be evident.

If we see these 26,000-year cycles as "natural" bringers of upheaval/rebirth, then I guess we've all just chosen to live in "Interesting Times"...and yeah, to quote Bette Davis in All About Eve:

"Fasten your seatbelts...it's going to be a bumpy night."
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby cesarnc » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:17 pm

Bob137 wrote:As what Cesarnc pointed out, these natural disasters have been increasing for some time, not from effects from the comet, also the suns solar flares are a cycle that was predicted many years ago, not from a comet coming into our solar system. (...)


Exactly. Wilcock also challenges the "man-made global warming" concept, due to the fact that the entire Solar System is undergoing a "warming" (or Neptunians are driving V8 engines SUVs LOL)

There is "something going on" in the entire Solar System, as mentioned by seeker, believed by some authors to be related to the precession of the equinoxes, the 25,920 years circle.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Bob137 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:55 pm

So maybe from what some scientists are saying that our Solar System is being effected by outside of our solar system sources. That our solar system is being pelted by energy waves from (I don't remember exactly where it's from, whether form the center of the Galaxy, or some other source), and that since we are coming into alignment with the dark center of our Milky Way Galaxy, and the cycle of the precession of the Equinoxes, and a Red Giant was also found at the Edge of our Solar system. Maybe just maybe history is repeating itself once again, and big changes are ahead for us all. Whether it will be catastrophic, enlightenment, ascension, , or just another day on the calendar, or annihilation, or animation :lol: , I guess we shall have to just wait and see?
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby amyrene33 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:55 am

In response to the 26,000 year cycle and the dark spot, I do believe this was true. My grandfather was afflicted with visions and this one in particular he felt strongly enough about to write down. It was very odd to read as a child but as I matured and technology increased, the earth meeting the dark spot in the sky and the changes with it now make much more sense, keeping in mind there was no internet and if he knew of other prophecies he didnt metion it.
As far as ELEnin/Nibiru is concerned, I ran across a picture in a time life book years ago in which a Sumerian tablet depicted a scene with what I think is either two suns or ufos maybe and it made me puzzle my puzzler out. These are the same folks who claim to have encountered beings from Nibiru so I says to myself, Self, if they were depicting what in their skyline looked to be two suns, what were they really seeing?
I came to the conclusion that it was in fact Nibiru and it could still exist. Knowing that most of the stars we see are actually binary systems I decided that the only way for a planet with such magnitude as to be visible in daytime would be out so far the majority of its orbit that we not notice and that perhaps because of its magnitude gravity and composition it not be noticed until it passes between the earth and sun and nearly eclipse as depicted in Sumerian artwork and what evidence it would leave in our system if this was happening.Such as the moons of the outer planets, Makeup and shape and position Judging by the celestial object in Leo on google sky infrared that is supposed to be where elenin is and appears to have satellites, it could be Nibiru.
Collision, NO. COINCIDEnces YeS more earthquakes/tsnamis pole shifts, if thats what this is, YES it seems to have had a direct effect on our neighbor planets and ourself in the past..Again, here comes my favorite number 10,000 or so years ago, the Ice age abruptly ended and many other climactic changes, food from the gods, populations moved inland suddenly and on and on and one other thing happened too....
ELEnin? coincidence? I dont think so. And Pons you can say whatever you like about Nibiru and do all the math you want but Im not sure you have all the facts and so your numbers wont be quite right but I am not educated enough to have a technical debate so well just agree to disagree and know that even if I disagree I still love your input. :wink:
There does appear to be a media blackout, My weather guy tells me if there is a meteor shower that I cant see because it will rain for three days and nothing on this, Nasa wont pull up images of elenin for me and all of this makes me wonder why?
well if an object of that magnitude was going to do a flyby and I was in charge I might not tell you either because... why I am putting on my shoes if I cant outrun the bear? I only have to outrun you and selfpreservation is probably the single strongest instinct.
Do I thnk were all gonna die NO.
Lets not all panic...ever.
No One with a proper telescope is talking in truths so we wouldnt even know what we were worrying about. past civilizations have survived this.
You are not freaking out because of the thousand and thousands that die everyday due to famine war and illness and
we may have a more abrupt event but life will go on and we are all right where we are supposed to be.
There is a God and maybe its not the one mainstream religion portrays but the laws of physics say something cant come from nothing so we know if or when something global takes place those of us who are openminded enough to question and seek answers are also smart enough to manage whatever adversity may befall us and maybe even help those who arent. so why worry
Just my 2 cents :D
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Buzi-Blu » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:36 pm

I would be highly skeptical of claims that so called "natural" disasters are increasing. What is a disaster? Is it area of land destroyed, lives lost, property damage? Is HIV a disaster? Is a local flood a disaster? An earthquake in a desert is not a disaster. An earthquake in an urban area with inadequate quality of buildings is a disaster.

By what means is such statistical data gathered? Is it impact on GDP that is measured? Many disasters are ranked according to the value of insurance claims, and now with more urban areas with greater material wealth those claims are indeed increasing. Ranking by lives lost will also give an increase because there are many more densely populated places, and more humans in general.

Drought is the highest ranking disaster, followed by floods, hurricanes, tsunamis, volcanoes then earthquakes. None are truly natural. Drought in combination with bad governance is nearly always the cause of disaster (as in the Horn of Africa right now). Similarly with floods - deforestation, building on marginal land and poor river management all cause floods - the Mississippi is a classic example.


With regards to changes within the Solar System, what are the baseline measurements to measure such change against? All data is very recent, and will have margins of error. With such limited data we cannot extrapolate trends, unless there is also sound scientific reasoning that predicts such changes (for example as in the argument for climate change).

I'm not saying that the Solar System isn't changing, or that it can affect the Earth, but there are a lot of misconceptions around.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby angeloneastralseed » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:43 pm

Thanks, Amy, I can tell you actually watched that video I posted. :D There is never one single event that will be the culprit of the increase of natural disasters, but coming into a 26,000 year plane can consist of so many factors to create the increase, and yes, comets are ONE factor that can cause an increase.

All countries are preparing underground for some kind of big event - is it going to be today? Is it going to be tomorrow? 5 years from now 100 years from now? We don't know. But you better be alarmed at the rate the governments are spending $$ on underground facilities. Maybe 50 years ago it was for nuclear fallout - today, I think it is for a different reason.

Buzi - we can see the geological history of natural disasters (large natural changes) on Earth through Geological studies - we can see the patterns of weather in trees and layers of dirt, we can see evidence of ancient earthquakes from layers in the dirt, floods, volcanic events - I could go on but you get the picture. Perhaps we should use the words Large Natural Events instead of disaster since disaster only refers to the loss of life and the $ impact, and look at it as Earth events - either way, the are increasing.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby cesarnc » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:53 pm

Buzi-Blu wrote:
By what means is such statistical data gathered?


Number of events.
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby angeloneastralseed » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:21 pm

First of all, we all need to realize that no one is saying these large events are for the first time in the history of our planet JUST NOW increasing and have never been this high before - no one said that. What is being said is that recently there is once again an increase, knowing it has happened before in the history of the planet.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 145109.htm
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby cesarnc » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:03 am

Yesterday no alignment, but a 6.9 earthquake affecting India, Nepal and Tibet. :oops:
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby amyrene33 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:57 am

Amy of course I looked, I count on people like you(us) to seek and share knowledge and viewpoints because I dont have the time to sift every bit of info myself but I like to have a variety of info before making decisions for myself so I appreciate it when people take the time to look, think and share. :wink: Honestly, I try to have a look at as much as I can especially if its new or different from my own thoughts.
I dont know if we need to have alignment or what this object truly is, I know its not what Im being told. I know we dont have to have alignment with the moon and sun to affect our tides only when they do its a little stronger (high tide/low tide) if it is as dense as it appears to me to be alignment wouldnt be necessary. I also know that I have been monitoring usgs and other sites like http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/ for years now and what my eyes and mind tell me about the info Ive taken in and it is enough to make a person living on the new madrid fault line such as myself grab a few extra cans of food and water and have a disaster plan in place just in case and if nothing happens great, and if something does well thats great too. Its not that I want to see suffering or chaos just that change happens and the way things are progressing it might not be so bad, its the knowledge that if a great change occurs Im okay knowing thats the way its meant to be.
Like my father and grandfather before me I am afflicted also with "visions" and I could go into the explanation that all events and thoughts are in their purest form only energy and energy is not bound by time and how some people are of an energy frequency to acsess and so on, Ive put a lot of thought into how it works and am I crazy and is it the subconsious working out logical outcomes and I can explain it no other way than energy. Ive put a lot of time and effort into the how and why because it troubled me and the moral is Ive unfortunately yet to be inaccurate or able to change a course of events and because of this celestial body or some other cause I know that change is coming with quakes and tornadoes and chaos and that it may be difficult all is well in the end and that it will happen in my lifetime. Visions dont have a date stamp on the edge of the screen like a recording I only know at the start of a particular event that this has played out a certain way in the past.
I dont normally like to talk about such things because the unknown and misunderstood so often is ridiculed I only mention it as to an explanation as to why I pay attention to the things that I do and so how I come to the information and conclusions that I have. Honestly I am looking for the proof that I am wrong and only find information of the opposite and it is in the very least disturbing. My point is that you dont need visions, just look at the information at hand and decide for yourself wether or not a few extra bottles of water are a good idea, if for you the answr is no, thats perfectly fine and it doesnt mean youre going to come to trajedy or harm for me the answer is yes. For me, the information Ive come across in my many years of sifting through religious texts, geological histories, legends and artwork and celestial events and solar system observances, my mind says at the very least it is something to be mentioned, observed and wary of. It doesnt consume my daily life but I dont ignore the world around me either and for me that is healthy and peaceful outlook.
Historical evidence suggests to me that an object of such mass has been here in the past and may again in the future, maybe two years and maybe two decades and that when this happens we have geologic events similar to what is happening now and that when it is close it doesnt have to align to cause pertubances. It could be this object or it could be one that has since been destroyed I couldnt say. I can only say that it makes me want to know more
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby amyrene33 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:12 am

I just want to post some facts, I dont KNOW whats going on..just have some ideas based on thes facts..mad dash to freeze all species of seeds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault just two examples
Millennium Seed Bank Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org
The Millennium Seed Bank Project is an international conservation project coordinated by the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew. Launched in the year 2000[1] and housed in the Wellcome Trust Millennium Building situated in the grounds of Wakehurst Place, West Sussex, its purpose is to provide an "insurance .....
mad dash to store food http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=749Food Stockpiling: Is The US Government Preparing for the Impact of Weaponized Avian Flu?
Connecting the dots: It looks as if the US Government may be preparing for somet...hing in a rather intensive way. Could that something be the coming “inevitable” pandemic we are increasingly being “softened up for”?world leaders taking "vacation"http://www.eutimes.net/2011/09/obama-ordered-to-denver-bunker-by-us-military/ couldnt find the earlier post to support-germany, UK and so onObama Ordered To Denver Bunker By US Military | EUTimes.net
A disturbing report prepared by General Alexey Maslov, the Senior Military Repre...sentative of the Permanent Mission of Russia to NATO, states that he has increased solar flare activity-according to NASA most active maximum events in history
http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/20 ... edictions/
also refer to post about auroras from nat geo
mad dash to build and stock DUMBS http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news16_dumbs.htmlnews headlines: Inside Underground Cities
conspiracy news headlines - books, articles, actions, solutions, news, dvd's to free the earth from the new world order agenda.. Nasa prepares employees and families for large prolonged disasters
fema prepares for large new madrid disaster http://efg-bnusfoodreserves.blogspot.co ... mlCritical FEMA Update:New Madrid Fault Line Disaster Exercise 2011 ~ EFG-BN
efg-bnusfoodreserves.blogspot.com
Critical FEMA Update:New Madrid Fault Line Disaster Exercise 2011.. These are just a few quick examples of a select few things going on behind the scenes not mentioning earthquakes not being reported and the increased seismic events and mars very quickly melting ice caps and saturns tilt and many other things going on all at once backed by legends of similar events approximately 10,000 years ago when this "comet" was last here.. my point is LOOK at the whole picture and start asking questions
maybe its nothing..but maybe it isnt nothing, someone seems to think there is good reason to build underground seed storage and underground cities and I want to know...what do they know that I dont..
just wanted to put these things in one place to shed some light on a bigger picture and put things in a different perspective...would absolutely love it if someone can intelligabely dispute these findings
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Bob137 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:39 am

I am not one to dispute the findings, just put my take on them. For one, I believe from experience, and being alive for over the past 50 years, that I have witnessed an increase disaster, whether natural or man made. If someone wants examples, for one, Man made, Chernobyl. Natural Tsunamis, & Hurricanes have increased according to Meteorologists. Volcanic eruptions though are an occurrence though widely skeptical on happening around the world continually throughout history, but on an irregular basis, (I believe there may be a pattern on these that is still not defined). In regards to comets, as I have stated previously, they have always been associated as bringers of doom and gloom. I personally think they may be signs form the cosmos, but not the actual artifacts that cause the problems, just signals of something coming. For one, we have had comets coming by earth for millions of years, a few may have struck the earth, and caused damage, but as of yet, there is none that have been proven to have actually caused any disasters in our current civilization, that I know of, (within the last 2000 years), (other than the possible Tunganuska explosion in Russia). So in regards to all the disasters that are happening on this planet, and changes within our whole solar system, to include our sun an d it's cyclical solar storms, (which has been known for some time, and was expected), we are going through a period of time here on earth that consists of many factors, to include predictions from the ancients, seers, prophets, books, legends, myths, scientific data, paranormal psychological informational increase, (esp increases), and a world in which we live in is in utter chaos socially, politically, morally, ethically, and spiritually. So I conclude from all my years of experience, research, knowledge, and common sense, that we are experiencing changes, some for the worse, and some for the better, depending on ones own path they are following, and we can only go by our own perception, and those of others to form a logical understanding of this experience. In other words, I am just going to have to wait and see what transpires, to know for sure, and don't worry, be happy, we are only visiting anyway, we just utilize the body vehicle for a short time of this experience, be what it may! :D
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Re: Is Comet Elenin Going to Hit Earth?

Postby Foxlike Mulder » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:21 pm

Here is a rather long and somewhat interesting take on Elenin, posted from The Watchtowers. It has some scientific analysis which is compelling, if only for the purposes of asking someone like Pons to prove otherwise. It's beyond my pay grade for understanding, but it does seem plausable. However, there is some (large) degree of paranoid ranting involved too, which detracts from the factual (?) representations written within. Although again, I can relate because if there is something terrible coming, I too would (will) be quite full of fear. There is another link below which also draws some conclusions from the mysterious orbital depictions on the Swiss 10 Franc note (from 1975). I have always been intrigued with the symbology represented on that note and the current view (with the eye of providence) of the US $1 note (which was initially minted shortly after JFKs death). If you haven't read the backstory of how the Fed took over the printing of money in late 1963, it's worth a look. Amazingly coincidental. If only to question: WHY? It is an official and formal representation (of currency no less) from the US government...why include some mysterious symbol on it? In business, it would be extremely unprofessional. Remember the age-old clue: "follow the money"...and I like to ask again, who owns the Fed? I may digress, but I think knowledge of coming events and the elite/military enigmas are connected.

http://www.thewatchtowers.com/comet-ele ... han-earth/

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1111/320 ... Notes.html
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