"Scientist" Claims Crystal Skulls Are Fake

[Sunrisepony]

We don't even today have the technology to replicate to the accuracy and detail those skulls. And, as mentioned there are no machining striations, plus they were carved/made in a way that is almost 100% possible they would have cracked if done with "current" technology. Another thing, they have to all be put together to work properly, all 13 of them. And, the resonating stone aka Key Stone...I believe is an Amethyst. Humanity was given technology 20,000 - 15,000 years ago, that we have yet to discover or create in modern times.

A question about Puma Punku, isn't there evidence of pilot holes in some of the pieces?

[Moon]

The problems I do have with the Crystal Skulls are none of them were found in the 17th or 18th Centuries. They have all been found at a time when ancient American artifacts were in vogue.

Sunrise, they can make those skulls today, but it would cost a ton of money and require much skill and time. We now have computers to aid in the engineering and very hard drill tips which were not available until recently. That is one of the reasons I do think it is possible these skulls are very ancient as I don't think they could of done them with such accuracy in the late 19th Century.

We need an engineer here to show us if they could make them in the late 19th or early 20th Centuries.

[celticqueen]

I meant to mention it on yesterdays post but forgot the first e-book The Skull Speaks the author states that the CIA (politely) asked to remove certain info from the 1st book which they did, to me that tells you a lot. I suppose cynics would say they would say that to draw interest for the book but it is only when you are well into the book that it is said and only mentioned the once. The original first book was first published in 1985 and the second 2001. One of the books can't remember which one states that repeating a mantra will open the Great Pyramid to me that makes perfect sense - you can't just have anyone gaining access.

[Sunrisepony]

The problems I do have with the Crystal Skulls are none of them were found in the 17th or 18th Centuries. They have all been found at a time when ancient American artifacts were in vogue.

Sunrise, they can make those skulls today, but it would cost a ton of money and require much skill and time. We now have computers to aid in the engineering and very hard drill tips which were not available until recently. That is one of the reasons I do think it is possible these skulls are very ancient as I don't think they could of done them with such accuracy in the late 19th Century.

We need an engineer here to show us if they could make them in the late 19th or early 20th Centuries.

Right, but the thing is there are no "drill" marks or anything that would indicate they were carved with anything less than a lazer or some other form of energy tool. I don't feel the timing of their discovery is really any weight to the authenticity of their purpose. I really honestly wish Forgotten Ages Research was still available, the site was incredible with the information it provided before it disappeared. They could replicate similar crystal skulls, but could not do in the way these were done. The true crystal skulls were cut even going 'against the grain' as they say, in a way that would shatter them if done with modern tools so where does that alone leave them?

@ Celtic Queen

No big surprise there, the CIA for the most part if I remember correctly is or at least originally the left overs of the Higher Ups for the SS. We didn't really kill hardly any of them during WW2 , just absorbed them into the ranks of the US Government. With exception of the ones that "escaped capture" that is and either went to South America or who knows. There are 9 families that control everything in the world, and for the most part the CIA is their "personal guard", there is a lot of information as we all know that the CIA has been withholding for decades for many different purposes. It would be interesting to see the original transcripts from the first publishing of the book. Pre-CIA editing, that is.

And, it does make perfect sense that would be how to open The Great Pyramid, I am sure though it would also help if it still had it's crystal cap stone. I mean, that's how one opens the Star Gate of Aramu Muru, by humming 3 tones.

[Moon]

Philip Coppens' book The Ancient Aliens Question deals with the crystal skulls in which he comes up with some surprising results: It appears the basic answer is they don't know where these crystal skulls came from. Much of the debunking done to the crystal skulls is shown to be false, which is making me open my mind to the possibility these could be made by other intelligences.

[Bob137]

From Max

The problems I do have with the Crystal Skulls are none of them were found in the 17th or 18th Centuries. They have all been found at a time when ancient American artifacts were in vogue.

So then any artifacts that were not found anywhere around the world that were not found int he 17th or 18th century must be fakes? Is that what you reasoning is?
I am sorry Max, but that just does not compute with me. I had a Professor at our local University with the same close minded opinion on everything to include megalithic sites, and it is just unscientific. Science is based on research, and more research, always with an open mind!
Just because the Mitchell-Hedges Skull was not found at an earlier period has no relevance on whether it is real or faked. Also Hearte's comments are bogus, the skull has been investigated, and was shown to be not made from that time period of discovery, and not by us, or at least not in this last century, and since there is not one civilization in the last couple of thousand of years that had the technology to produce such devices. Let's get real; then the only rational and logical conclusion is that it was either made in the future and brought back to that time to be discovered, or it is very old indeed, and was made by either an advanced civilization or aliens!

[Moon]

Bob, if you read my statement above yours, I have changed my mind from must be fakes to I do not know. Philip Coppens writes in depth on the subject of the crystal skulls and has some surprising information about them in his latest book The Ancient Alien Question. I cannot just dismiss them off hand because we simply don't know where they came from, and Mr Coppens makes a good case for a possible location.

Just like on crop circles, I can also change my mind on the crystal skulls.

The mystery gets deeper...

[Bob137]

Sorry about that Max, it had been awhile since I seen this post, and I should have read through all of it, but I did not and please forgive me for that one. I do make mistakes also Max, and this one was one of mine. Next time I am back at a forum which I haven't read for some time, I will read through again, to make sure I get it all right.
I really like that picture of Minerva, Where did you get it?

[Moon]

Do I ever know we all make mistakes! I was thinking they were all fakes until I read Mr Coppens' take on what happened. There is much information the ones doing the testing did not know and did not care to investigate either.

I have been searching for other pictures for my signature. I liked the standing Minerva, and then I saw the beautiful fantasy Minerva which fits right in (and adds her owl). I also wanted to add Mercury, but I can't find anything that goes with my image of Minerva. (They are both partners.)

[Bob137]

I remember a painting of Minerva of Victorious over Ignorance. That would be something great for people's needs in our time! Maybe we need to invoke Minerva to help us out here!

[Moon]

I remember a painting of Minerva of Victorious over Ignorance. That would be something great for people's needs in our time! Maybe we need to invoke Minerva to help us out here!

Here is an image of that famous painting:

[Bob137]

Beautiful painting, I love classical art. I had a class in college, and kept the books, but they ended up getting ruined during a rain storm, when my garage leaked, where I had them, due to having too many books to keep on shelves. I particularly like that they do the human form so lifelike and so well proportioned.

[Moon]

I also love classical art and could not wait when we had the Picture Lady come to our class when I was in elementary school.

[Bob137]

I like to point out the oddities in paintings, such as in this one:
Her right hand, she has the index fingered positioned so as in Italy I believe it was, a sign of contempt as we now utilize the middle finger in flipping someone off.
Straight down from there is a man holding up a gyroscope.
Her index toe, or first toe next to her big toe on both feet is longer than her big toes, and they have a wide separation from the big toes.
She is also dressed provaucitively.
The cupid on the upper right is an older cupid, not a young one as in most paintings, and it is hlding some kind of wand or something that seems as though he is trying to tease or tickle her breast.
Her left foot is situated where she is standing on a man's torso, which the body has no head, or her foot is where the head should be.
Her left arm is painted as to where it is almost camouflaged to the background, and is holding something, am not sure what it is, looks like a rope or something knotted.
Anyway that is oddities I notice in this painting.

[Saxoneer]

It is indeed a weird painting, I also noticed the man at bottom left is holding what looks like a small parrot and is that not a gyroscope balanced on someones finger?

[Saxoneer]

Of course if you want weird paintings, look no further than the paintings of Hieronymus Bosch. He was born in 1450 and died in 1516, He lived all his life in and around Hertogenbosch, The Netherlands. This is just one of many paintings.



I want to know what this man was on? If he never left the town he was born in, where would he have seen elephants, giraffes, and does that not look like a marsupial of some kind?

[Bob137]

Looks like he had a hell of an imagination!

[Ace Rimmer]

Oh yeah! Hieronymus Bosch, we have brought him up before. He was actually sanctioned by the Church ! atleast I read that about him before.
That's gotta make a person wonder!!!

Do a google search of his work, you haven't seen anything yet.

[Foxlike Mulder]

Of course if you want weird paintings, look no further than the paintings of Hieronymus Bosch. He was born in 1450 and died in 1516, He lived all his life in and around Hertogenbosch, The Netherlands. This is just one of many paintings.



I want to know what this man was on? If he never left the town he was born in, where would he have seen elephants, giraffes, and does that not look like a marsupial of some kind?

Sax, I have researched Bosch quite a bit recently as he has captured my imagination for over 30 years. I have posted some of this info in another forum topic (Glorification of the Eucharist), see my post at the end of the thread:

http://legendarytimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2373&hilit=bosch

Essentially, it is theorized that Bosch had a sercet association in a gnostic-like society.

[dtwaters]

Hello All, been reading and studying the interesting things you open minded fellow members have to say. Got a theory on cristal skulls I want to bring out to you.
First of all look at my post, Better front view of a Alien ,which to me shows a face carved in yellow crystal on the flat side of a rock. I had alwaysthought of this flat
crystal carving as a alien face, but it could be a crystal skull. Another thing to think about. Two years ago I saw on the Discovery Channel . thay were interviewing a
retired NASA Engineer and they asked him what experments they were running on the Space Station. He said one thing they were testing was Crystal Rock, for it
would grow under antigravity conditions. You don"t suppose these crystal skulls were grown some and carved some.

Listen carefully and contribute what you can.
DT Moundbuilder

[Bob137]

It is very possible the crystal skulls were originally grown in space, then either carved and brought to earth, or brought to earth and then carved. Maybe we shall find out one day, soon I hope.