Russians accusing US of Mars probe sabotage?

[Foxlike Mulder]

For what it's worth, the Director of the Russian space agency hinted today that it may have been the US who caused their Mars probe to fail (it will ultimately crash down to Earth in a few days). CNN/Time makes the subtle accusation sound absurd. I don't know a lot, but I do know there is pent up hostility brewing between the Russians and the US government (I watch and read RT a lot now)...the Middle East is just one topic that demonstrates the theorm. Maybe it's just propaganda/misinformation, but I think there is more to come.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2104251,00.html?hpt=hp_t3

[JessieD]

Right off, that article sounds biased.....*reads more*.....Wow. That was hard to read because it was so subjective and biased. It definitely sounds like they're trying to down-play something.

[Sunrisepony]

It wouldn't surprise me if they did, the Cabal/Global Elite are known to have sabotaged several Russian Space Program launches mostly using their HAARP technology. It's fairly well known, they are doing this. The HAARP program is not just about weather control.

[Moon]

The Russians and the US have been having terrible luck when it comes to Mars probes. To blame us is silly, but Putin wants to win election and is looking more vulnerable than he did a while back. There is nothing better than using old fashioned Nationalism to get the people to support you.

[Sunrisepony]

They actually have evidence that supports the claims of the Russians with the US being behind the sabotage of this mission. But, it's not the Representative Government that did it, it was the "other" government.

[Moon]

Are you referring to the shadow government mentioned by President Bush II?

[Foxlike Mulder]

They actually have evidence that supports the claims of the Russians with the US being behind the sabotage of this mission. But, it's not the Representative Government that did it, it was the "other" government.

I'd say this is the same government that holds the artifacts from such places as Roswell, Kecksburg, etc.

[Sunrisepony]

@ Max,

That depends exactly which government he was referring to, I'm talking about the one that controls everything, or at least they think they do on a global scale. With the exception of Russia..... which is partially currently why they're picking fights with the middle east. Very nice strategic location for "sneak attack" on Russia.

I'd say this is the same government that holds the artifacts from such places as Roswell, Kecksburg, etc.

Yes, among other things. I certainly must find the article though sometime here to post in this thread about the Russians and their evidence.

See, there is the thing. The Russians want to "dominate the world" and actually have the man power, and technical power and placement to do it. And blow this world to shreds 3 times over. They are militarily the #1. But, the US wants the world and it's people to believe the US is # 1. It's the Bolsheiviks that control US, and now likely control Rockefeller, Rothschild and Bilderberger. But, they're the old controllers of Russia. They also want to "dominate the world". What they weren't expecting in this current "game" was for the Asians and 127 some odd countries to turn around and say "Sodd Off." And, the Asians to demand their gold be returned just as the greatest destruction of humanity was about to start along with World War 3. Anyway, I digress.

The reasoning behind the Global Elite, taking out Russia's Mars Probe. The only official information so far that we've had about Mars has come from NASA, NASA is controlled by The Global Elite. They tell us that Mars is this small dusty, red planet with not really much atmosphere and extreme wind and weather conditions. Yet, there's been contactees and others that have either flat out said or speculated that just isn't the case. That there are structures, it's been inhabited, all kinds of things. Heck, even my own contact experiences have provided me info that completely says otherwise to official accounts. "They" don't want the Russians to discover that "NASA" has been lying all along. Imagine, alone. If Russia gets the info and comes back and says "Guess what! We've found Alien Bases, Genetics Engineering Labs, an almost breathable atmosphere and far less extreme temperatures. And, beyond that...we found old US/German occupation evidence. Plus it's bigger than you've all been told." That alone would make the world question everything else that NASA has said, and rightfully well they should. Plus, for those that haven't "caught on" yet to the existence of life outside this planet. It would certainly verify that and cause all kinds of upsets.

[Foxlike Mulder]

See, there is the thing. The Russians want to "dominate the world" and actually have the man power, and technical power and placement to do it. And blow this world to shreds 3 times over. They are militarily the #1. But, the US wants the world and it's people to believe the US is # 1. It's the Bolsheiviks that control US, and now likely control Rockefeller, Rothschild and Bilderberger. But, they're the old controllers of Russia. They also want to "dominate the world". What they weren't expecting in this current "game" was for the Asians and 127 some odd countries to turn around and say "Sodd Off." And, the Asians to demand their gold be returned just as the greatest destruction of humanity was about to start along with World War 3. Anyway, I digress.

I'm not sure if I agree that Russia's military might exceeds that of the US (or their shadow selves). Assuming we're on the same page with at least a Shadow Government occupying the US geography, and this group is in possession of alien technology, I would argue that fact alone proves greater military worth and/or strength than any other known Russian quality or quantity. The Russians are quite capable, and I'm also reasonably convinced they too possess some alien technology. However, they lost considerable progress when the Wall came down and based on today's geo-political posturing, it is clear the US has a very heavy hand, and all governments are wary of what ramifications may come should anyone cross that "line" (of US authority) so to speak, including the Russians & Chinese. The tricky part to understand, and I won't pretend I do (in the least), is how the dynamics play out with the facing US Government (and military) and the Shadow US Government (and military forces), especially with conflicting agendas and in the same breath both having some mutually beneficial goals. I really do think the playing field is so complex that no one entity is truly in position to lead, nor decipher the situation to the extent a game plan to lead (the world) could be created. I think chaos is a certainty, before order is restored.

[seeker1117]

The whole "russia vs us" thing is just a distraction. Us vs Them. Look past it. It's got nothing to do with that.

Some"one" or more probably some"ones" don't want humans on Mars, or anywhere near Mars, and it seems ESPECIALLY Phobos.

Phobos....Hollow? Not a "natural" moon? Ancient space ship? Ancient-tech power/defense station left over from the civilization that once thrived on Mars?