Exopolitics?

[deep thought]

didnt really see anything about the subject itself. thought i would get the opinion of some of the fine folks around here. now if aliens came im sure we can all agree there are thousands, maybe even millions of questions we would want to ask them. what if you could only have one? i just asked my fiance and she said "whats our purpose?" a very good question. but what if they didnt have the answer to that?
what would be one question you would want to ask an extraterrestrial?
and not just what you picture what a specific ET looks like. personally i think they probably look pretty similar to us. but again what if some reptilian ET came or the greys or the galgamecks (south park, lol) this question could be answered by any number of "species"

mine question would be "whats the plan?"

[Moon]

I do think exopolitics is a bunch of hogwash for the most part. There are several who run sites dedicated to this subject and it seems their sole purpose is to sell books, DVDs and seminars. They do not have one shred of evidence to support the claims, other than alleged statements, channelers and other non verifiable types of evidence.

It is nice for some people to want to believe we are not only being visited but have had contact with the past 60 or so years, but I do want to see some real evidence to support this claim.

But the problem is there is a large number of people willing to pay to hear about these claims. As long as that is true, we never will be taken seriously.

[Ace Rimmer]

Can you take me for a ride in your Spaceship ? and please..... no probing!

[yerock III stoneman]

Dad?

[deep thought]

i think greed dominates pretty much everything. thats why its hard for me to take much of anything seriously. anyone that is charging you $ to hear something or "learn" something new. thats b.s. to me. but i do understand the fact that most people willing to pay are going to take it more seriously than that group on the sidelines heckling because their mind is already made up.

but im more curious as to what part of it you think is hogwash. like the whole idea? if it has to do with these people making claims of contacting ET and discussing politics with them, i have to agree with you. and to try and charge people.... but people are always going to take advantage of others on various levels.

i forgot who said it on AA but they explained it perfectly. who is going to speak on behalf of the entire human poplulation if they show up and say take me to your leader. are they gonna bring them to the U.N.? am i crazy to think that they would not have the best idea on how to handle the situation if it did arise. i wouldnt bring them to the person who claims they have been contacting them on any level.

lets look at a nuclear war situation. do you believe it is better to just wait until we are on the verge of nuclear war before we figure out how to deal with the subject or is it better to have a plan in place? just a comparison but think of it in terms of aliens actually coming.


also you guys had some good questions if im taking them correctly. are they our dad's or creators? and i personally would want to fly the spaceship, not just ride on it. but thats just me. keep em coming.

[yerock III stoneman]

Hey deep thought, you got the meaning of "Dad?" right. Since you're only allowed one question each, I'll ask one for my cat. Her name is Time.
"Could Yerock the Thirdstoneman and I come aboard? We wish to travel 2,000 light-years from home, in any direction, in an instant or ASAP. Then we need you to stop, turn the ship around, and focus your highly advanced telescopic equipment on the light rays from earth. At 2,000 years old, those rays might have some interesting images in them. Okay? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"
... Peace.

[Ace Rimmer]

I'd like to see a Day The Earth Stood Still type senario. With an Alien like Michael Rennie's Klaatu and his peace keeping robot enforcer Gort.
Klaatu steps out of the spaceship and addresses the assembled scientists, explaining that humanity's penchant for violence and first steps into space have caused concern among other inhabitants of the universe who have created and empowered a race of robot enforcers including Gort to deter such aggression. He warns that if the people of Earth threaten to extend their violence into space, the robots will destroy Earth, adding, "The decision rests with you." He enters the spaceship and departs.

[yerock III stoneman]

Maybe it will be the Jimi Hendrix version:
"Strange beautiful grass of green,
With your beautiful majestic silver seas
Your mysterious mountains I wish to see closer
May I land my kinky machine?
Although your world wonders me,
With your majestic and superior cackling hen
Your people I do not understand.
So to you I shall put an end
And, you'll never hear surf music again." - ”Thirdstone from the Sun”
Oops, I guess my question was "could you play some of the best music this side of the Galaxy?”
... Peace.

[Moon]

The site UFO Watchdog had a great article on the scam of UFO conventions and all of the fees charged. I did find this one about Steven Greer, who charges much money for people to see pictures of moths:

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/steven_greer.htm

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/steven_greer_2.htm

[isitmeorwhott?]

Excuse me. But do you have a light?

[deep thought]

:) Excuse me. But do you have a light?

lol. i love it

i bet those spaceships rock a pretty dope sound system. i would be overjoyed to hear them playing hendrix

I'd like to see a Day The Earth Stood Still type senario. With an Alien like Michael Rennie's Klaatu and his peace keeping robot enforcer Gort.
Klaatu steps out of the spaceship and addresses the assembled scientists, explaining that humanity's penchant for violence and first steps into space have caused concern among other inhabitants of the universe who have created and empowered a race of robot enforcers including Gort to deter such aggression. He warns that if the people of Earth threaten to extend their violence into space, the robots will destroy Earth, adding, "The decision rests with you." He enters the spaceship and departs.

i think this is a slight variation of what happened when the "gods" were here. maybe not because we were going into space but because we were becoming intelligent. we were smart but we were still subject to influence. be good or be destroyed.be good or go to hell. i havent seen it yet but it sounds like i would liken Klaatu and Gort to Zues in a way. i know its a stretch but hang with me. when zues and the gods were here they were basically trying to mold humankind into a certain image. be it their own or maybe to just experiment. im sure they had certain expectations of us/humankind.and when we didnt listen we were hit with the thunder bolt. when they realized that it only worked to an extant they simply just left.
a situation of the earth stood still, in my opinion, will most likely be how "they" come back. they are gonna say "look, you guys cant even achieve peace here on this little tiny rock in space. you think your going to bring those issue out here into the vast, seemingly limitless universe?" i think they would tell us to figure it out here (earth), before we wanna learn more out there (universe). the threat of violence probably wouldnt be brought up. but im sure it would be greatly implied.

The site UFO Watchdog had a great article on the scam of UFO conventions and all of the fees charged. I did find this one about Steven Greer, who charges much money for people to see pictures of moths:

im not a violent guy anymore but this is the type of person i would love to be alone with for a few minutes. to use peoples hopes to line your pockets. grrrrrrrrrr. it truly makes me sick. im almost positive there are people out there who have contacts or whatever you would call them. but again i dont think i could take any of them seriously unless i heard their story out of their mouth and was able to question every and any detail. and i still doubt they would be able to convince me. but thats just me.
i wouldnt go to a convention myself unless its an AA convention. AA theorist use logic and science to back their claims up. they dont go on faith or belief. if you really really really want to see that moth as a spaceship or ufo or ET, you will.

[deep thought]

Hey deep thought, you got the meaning of "Dad?" right. Since you're only allowed one question each, I'll ask one for my cat. Her name is Time.
"Could Yerock the Thirdstoneman and I come aboard? We wish to travel 2,000 light-years from home, in any direction, in an instant or ASAP. Then we need you to stop, turn the ship around, and focus your highly advanced telescopic equipment on the light rays from earth. At 2,000 years old, those rays might have some interesting images in them. Okay? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"
... Peace.

i think thats what they have been doing. just watching. have you ever saw that episode of south park about how "they" are going to cancel the tv show "Earth". could we be the longest running reality tv show ever? bet they have seen some pretty crazy things.


got another question. why did "they" leave? and i mean "they" by all the AA that have came to this earth before and left. i want detailed reports, lol

[yerock III stoneman]

I feel like I'm at an AAT convention every time I log in here. If Zeus was trying to do a little sculpturing on us with his lightning bolt, he didn't even have to hit us. The Greeks believed that where Zeus' bolt hit the ground, a speckled mushroom would grow.......
..
And seriously, their music would be capable of - "you got me floating, round and round"
.... Peace.

[polaris]

Why and how did you cut and lift those megalithic stones!
I guess those are two questions, if only one then the latter...

[Moon]

In his autobiography, Kevin Randle states the biggest reason why exopolitics is not a good thing is none of the founders do any vetting of personalities or claims made by them. They accept open armed all of the ideas and theories presented to them. If a person tells them the Thalosians are building a web around the Earth, by golly the Thalosians are building a web around the Earth!

If they are serious, they will set up a panel of experts from all fields to investigate all claims made and the persons making them.

It probably won't be done as exopolitics sells many books out there. Just type the word in any online store that sells books and videos.

[deep thought]

we need more people like Alfred Webre. well how he was until a few years ago. its that simple. while Kevin Randle has written some very interesting looking books about ufo's i didnt see any that only relates to exopolitics. (im just going by the titles) i noticed he also writes quite a bit of science fiction as well. not that there is anything wrong with that. but im more prepared to listen to someone who was actually doing something about it as opposed to writing about it.
here is a bit about Alfred Webre i grabbed from wiki
"Alfred Lambremont Webre (born May 24, 1942) is an American author, lawyer, futurist, peace activist, environmental activist, and a space activist who promotes the ban of space weapons.[2][3] He was a co-architect of the Space Preservation Treaty and the Space Preservation Act that was introduced to the U.S. Congress by Congressman Dennis Kucinich and is endorsed by more than 270 NGO's worldwide.[4][5]
He helped draft the Citizen Hearing in 2000 with Stephen Bassett and serves as a member of the Board of Advisors. Webre is also the congressional coordinator for The Disclosure Project,[6] and is a judge on the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission."
"Exopolitics Webre's 2000 ebook "Towards a Decade of Contact (2000)" contains his first discussion of exopolitics. (The term "exo-politics", in the meaning of political relations within the scope of the universe, was discussed as early as in 1977 by Timothy Leary. [16]) Webre believes that there is intelligent extraterrestrial life in our Universe. The exopolitics model functionally maps the operation of politics, government and law in an intelligent Universe, and provides an operational bridge between models of terrestrial politics, government and law, and the larger models of politics, government and law in Universe society.
Webre believes that as exopolitics posits, the truest conception of our human circumstance may be that we are on an isolated planet in the midst of a populated, evolving, highly organized inter-planetary, inter-galactic, multi-dimensional Universe society.[2] He believes that we live on a planet that has been quarantined (the Zoo Hypothesis) and that we are now being given an opportunity to join the rest of the spiritually evolved Universe Society in peace, thus an opportunity to avoid environmental global self-destruction or global self-destruction through war.[2]
On March 10, 2007, Webre launched the Exopolitics Radio program, hosted by 1480 KPHX (which at the time was the Air America Radio affiliate, and Nova M Radio flagship station, in Phoenix) until the fall of 2008; the program remained in production until March 2009 and is distributed via podcast on its own website.[18] Guests on the program have generally advocated similar views to Webre, and many are well known within the UFO research/enthusiast (and to a lesser extent the New Age) community.[19]
In 2011, the Australian publication Veritas Magazine asked Webre to review the first decade of Exopolitics, 2000 - 2010. The first decade of Exopolitics includes approximately 30 nations releasing their secret extraterrestrial and UFO files; Exopolitics being nominated for word of the year in 2005; Exopolitics organizations active in approximately 40 nations.[20]
In April 2012, Webre launched ExoUniversity.org, an educational entity offering online education in ExoSciences, PsiSciences and ExoPolitics with an Earth Day April 22, 2012, Forum "An Introduction to Time Travel with an Emphasis on Teleportation."
"In 1987, Webre produced and hosted "The Instant of Cooperation", the first live radio broadcast between USA and the then Soviet Union, carried live by Gosteleradio and NPR satellite on WBAI-FM. He is a founding director of Canada's No Weapons in Space Campaign (NOWIS) established in 2002.[10] In 2004, he created the Campaign for Cooperation in Space (CCIS), an international organization where he works with others to prevent the weaponization of space and promote the transformation of the war economy into a peaceful, cooperative space exploration industry."

he was basically saying instead of spending all this money on war and militarization, lets try and get further into space.

[Moon]

Kevin Randle is very well respected in his areas of research on these subjects. He looks for the evidence to support what has been stated and does the trench work to get at the answers. He is no armchair researcher like many are now in the field.

What he has to say on the subject is important as it rings very true. I have looked at the exopolitics sites and they do not vet any of the information they get from any of their sources. The idea of this subject is wonderful and I give the founders that one. But they have not one shred of evidence to support any of the claims they have made.

If one wants to find out what they have, they must fork out a few hundred dollars and sign a non-disclosure agreement. I think the irony of that alone speaks volumes about the movement.

I do not want to bash this movement as I see it has merits. But they have to look at what they want it to be and do some serious housecleaning before anyone takes it seriously. Using the name of Dennis Kucinich (who lost his re-election primary bid) does not add to any credibility to the movement. He became a joke when he talked of seeing a UFO with Shirley Maclaine.

[deep thought]

so ive read some of kevin randles blogs. good informed stuff. not some crazy babble we see around. but what are some of his accomplishments? well other than writting. im not hating on him at all just wondering what he might have to do with exopolitics or universal politics.

anything involving a non-disclosure agreement and paying, is most likely a scam. im not gonna pay to hear someones imput or evidence of something. sounds like a glorified sideshow to me. like those moth pictures.

and i dont know about any of these "claims" being made on the other site. the couple i visited looked like scams right off the bat. and i didnt have to give them a second look. i smelled the b.s. through my monitor. what were some of these claims?

and for Dennis Kucinich being a joke because of his UFO sighting, well thats because most of the public and those in control of the media make it appear that way, as a joke. this man was an elected offical. and so was george bush... shows how smart the "public" can be sometimes