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Re: phobos, the frontier of mystery...

Postby Serene » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:50 am

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/marte_phobos09.htm
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Re: phobos, the frontier of mystery...

Postby Moon » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:56 pm

Serene wrote:http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/marte_phobos09.htm


Thank you for that link, Serene.

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Re: phobos, the frontier of mystery...

Postby Bob137 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:28 pm

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New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Moon » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:21 pm

There is another monolith on Mars that is raising some questions in the mainstream media outlets:

http://news.yahoo.com/monolith-object-m ... 04772.html

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NASA is calling it a boulder exaggerated by the Sun casting a shadow on it.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Jeff Sheets » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:06 pm

Looks a bit like a tombstone...
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby seeker1117 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:23 pm

...or a doorway...
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Sunrisepony » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:38 pm

It's a weather balloon.... :lol: ...no actually it's a lens flare....no....really it is, um. NASA seriously has cake on their face with this one.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Gizmo » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:25 am

its a diglet
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Ace Rimmer » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:31 am

seeker1117 wrote:...or a doorway...
You beat me too it!
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Foxlike Mulder » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:28 am

In the article some official mentions that the camera pixels are exaggerating the rectangular perspective of the photo, yet, off to the left, is a boulder that is clearly rounded with another large shadow. That depiction from the same camera does not seem to be distorted into a definitive rectangle like the object in question. So yes, says NASA, this is completely normal...go back to your reality TV, we've got this space science mumbo jumbo.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Corcaigh » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:29 am

MetaMorphosis wrote:
seeker1117 wrote:...or a doorway...

You beat me too it!


LOL looks like Monsters Inc are about to appear!
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Moon » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:40 pm

Foxlike Mulder wrote:In the article some official mentions that the camera pixels are exaggerating the rectangular perspective of the photo, yet, off to the left, is a boulder that is clearly rounded with another large shadow. That depiction from the same camera does not seem to be distorted into a definitive rectangle like the object in question. So yes, says NASA, this is completely normal...go back to your reality TV, we've got this space science mumbo jumbo.


I did read they were all "on" this with their explanations. It still looks neat and shows why we need a manned mission to Mars.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Sunrisepony » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:50 pm

There were humans on Mars from 1950's to 1989 until they were slaughtered by the Orion Group that came and took Mars back from the humans. And, we haven't gone back since. There even used to be two "Jump Gate" Elevators, including one at Edwards AFB that went to Mars, and I think the other was / is in New Mexico or Arizona.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby hollow27 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:24 am

Awesome pic, thanks for sharing. I could possibly understand the pixel comment in regards to the rectangular appearance, but that doesn't do anything to hide or disguise the size of this object. If the sun was as low as proposed, there would be further examples of exaggerated shadows in that area.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Moon » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:39 pm

I do like the "Nothing to see here! Move along, move along!" type theories they do bring up. Anyone even curious enough to ask a question gets ridiculed. I have seen many low resolution pictures from the Moon and Mars which they can get away with, but this one does look intriguing.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Sunrisepony » Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:51 pm

Yeah, same here the "explanations" are always good for a belly laugh. It definitely looks like a monolith to me, it's tall and cast a real shadow. Maybe part of a wall?
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby forgottentales » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:08 am

It looks like a monument to me. I want a close up view~!! I bet it's got writing on it. :D
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Serene » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:07 pm

Sunrisepony wrote:There were humans on Mars from 1950's to 1989 until they were slaughtered by the Orion Group that came and took Mars back from the humans. And, we haven't gone back since. There even used to be two "Jump Gate" Elevators, including one at Edwards AFB that went to Mars, and I think the other was / is in New Mexico or Arizona.


Do you have any proof to back this statement up?
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Sunrisepony » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:36 pm

Serene wrote:
Sunrisepony wrote:There were humans on Mars from 1950's to 1989 until they were slaughtered by the Orion Group that came and took Mars back from the humans. And, we haven't gone back since. There even used to be two "Jump Gate" Elevators, including one at Edwards AFB that went to Mars, and I think the other was / is in New Mexico or Arizona.


Do you have any proof to back this statement up?


This is a good place to start, lots of first hand testimony, photos, etc. Including from Military Officials that actually went on record officially, black project reports. Multiple testimonies from multiple contactees... I've also had it directly verified by my contacts in military and Intelligence, and my own ET/ED contacts that I've known and communicated with for 27 plus years now, it's up to you to decide if this is enough evidence for you.

Start with these links:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_marte.htm

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Part 1 of 12 video with photos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ls7lcturUQ

And this e-book also covers some of it:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andro ... acom_0.htm

And while you're on the site I suggest checking out the Dulce Book, Dulce Report and The Dulce Papers, which also cover some of the information verifying it.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Sagittarii » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:36 am

^ :lol:
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby polaris » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:16 am

There is also a monolith on Phobos - a suspected hollow (artificial) moon of Mars'.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/marte_phobos09.htm
http://news.yahoo.com/monolith-object-mars-could-call-214004772.html

In comparing the two, they do look similar! Half circle shaped.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Moon » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:27 pm

polaris wrote:There is also a monolith on Phobos - a suspected hollow (artificial) moon of Mars'.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/marte_phobos09.htm
http://news.yahoo.com/monolith-object-mars-could-call-214004772.html

In comparing the two, they do look similar! Half circle shaped.


That is one of the reasons I think this is interesting. I wonder if they are beacons to mark something? Thank you for bringing up the Phobos Moon monolith.
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Re: phobos, the frontier of mystery...

Postby seeker1117 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:46 pm

As this doesn't really apply to the new monolith found, I figured it best to resurrect this older thread.

Found this just now. Very interesting addition to the "Phobos and Deimos are NOT MOONS but ancient spaceships!" canon.

http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/30/view/20526/data-design-project-the-bubble-charts-of-march.html

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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Theseeker189 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:17 pm

Gizmo wrote:its a diglet

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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Dr. Z » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:14 am

Sunrisepony wrote:There were humans on Mars from 1950's to 1989 until they were slaughtered by the Orion Group that came and took Mars back from the humans. And, we haven't gone back since. There even used to be two "Jump Gate" Elevators, including one at Edwards AFB that went to Mars, and I think the other was / is in New Mexico or Arizona.


What is a gate jump elevator?
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Serene » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:00 pm

Sunrisepony wrote:
Serene wrote:
Sunrisepony wrote:There were humans on Mars from 1950's to 1989 until they were slaughtered by the Orion Group that came and took Mars back from the humans. And, we haven't gone back since. There even used to be two "Jump Gate" Elevators, including one at Edwards AFB that went to Mars, and I think the other was / is in New Mexico or Arizona.


Do you have any proof to back this statement up?


This is a good place to start, lots of first hand testimony, photos, etc. Including from Military Officials that actually went on record officially, black project reports. Multiple testimonies from multiple contactees... I've also had it directly verified by my contacts in military and Intelligence, and my own ET/ED contacts that I've known and communicated with for 27 plus years now, it's up to you to decide if this is enough evidence for you.

Start with these links:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_marte.htm

and

Part 1 of 12 video with photos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ls7lcturUQ

And this e-book also covers some of it:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andro ... acom_0.htm

And while you're on the site I suggest checking out the Dulce Book, Dulce Report and The Dulce Papers, which also cover some of the information verifying it.


That's your proof? :roll:
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Sunrisepony » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:11 pm

Dr. Z wrote:What is a gate jump elevator?

You're reversing words, and confusing what I said. Go back and re-read what I said "Jump Gate" Elevators. Jump Gates are like portals but portals only go between fixed locations with in the confines of a ship, craft or planet. Star Gates can go to any space, time, dimension, etc. Jump Gates are like "star gates" in a sense but they're fixed to specific locations/points like a portal. The ones used to go to Mars were set within the confines of elevators in a couple different bases.

Serene,
There is an extensive heavy amount of research and evidence contained within those links, I should at least expect on this forum to be treated respectfully and not in a rude and disrespectful manner. IF you don't want to take time to check out the extensive amount of information provided and instead chose to respond in a rude and disrespectful manner that shows negatively on you, not me. I was asked to provide proof, evidence, what I was basing the information I was sharing on, outside of those links I have other sources (highly reliable personal contacts) that are not available to provide links to. But, if you do not want to do your own research and check out what is provided your self, that is your problem. Not mine, I did what was asked. And I was polite and respectful about it, I'm sure you are mature enough to be the same way in return.

I don't particularly appreciate the disrespectful and rude behavior of Sagittarii either, am I seriously expecting to much out of some board members here to be respectful? And not behave rudely? Specially with absolutely no reason for the behavior. Certainly respectful behavior towards each other here is possible.

IF you guys don't want to take the time to examine evidence and do research yourself to learn the finer details of information shared by someone, and specially are incapable of responding in a respectful manner then don't ask for any in the first place.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Dr. Z » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:41 am

Sunrisepony wrote, Jump Gate" Elevators. Jump Gates are like portals but portals only go between fixed locations with in the confines of a ship, craft or planet. Star Gates can go to any space, time, dimension, etc. Jump Gates are like "star gates" in a sense but they're fixed to specific locations/points like a portal. The ones used to go to Mars were set within the confines of elevators in a couple different bases.


Thanks for the description on what a Jump Gate Elevator is. I value your input on the board, just keep in mind the more amazing the story, the greater the skepticism. People tend to be wired that way, and for good reason.

Most links do not include videos or clear photos that back up their claim. If there are such photos of humans walking around in suits on Mars say moving around a bit with less gravity, then I would quickly buy in to the theory.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Sunrisepony » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:13 pm

Dr. Z.

Thanks, I think you can surmise my little "rant" wasn't in any form directed at you. You've always been very respectful towards me and others here. :) I really do not mind providing evidence etc where it is available , when it is available in most instances as long as it wont in some way potentially lead to my life or someone else's I'm in communication with (friend or otherwise) being put at grave risk of loosing life or life of a family member. I prefer to 'help' others do their own research, then I'm not saying "Take My Word For It" and neither am I handing information out on a silver platter. People just do not learn anything when everything is just simply handed to them.

Simply stated alone, with the further one delves into astrophysics, and hyperdimensional physics, Quantum Mechanics, Quantum Dynamics etc. The existence of Jump Gates, Star Gates, Worm Holes, Portals etc. And, multiple dimensions and universes etc, existing becomes completely logical. I never bought into for one second the "reality" sold to the world on mainstream rails. The two Jump Gates that the military have at their bases, I believe one is in New Mexico (potentially though could be Arizona) and the other is Edwards AFB. Anyway, they put the Jump Gates in what look to be regular Elevators. That's where that all comes from.

When one makes the connection that we're not alone, and learns the real history of 'modern contact' between the Grays and Government which started in the early 1930's, and you add in the testimony and evidence provided by multiple government whistle blower sources, mostly first hand accounts. And, I say modern because even as the Ancient Aliens series points out, they've been here much longer...ish. But, that's a different topic. There are more than enough photos of different monuments on mars, and contactees even that talk about Mars and life. Then you have to take into consideration NASA (which is where just about every other mainstream astrophysicist and astroscientist bases their information on) is known to blatantly and openly lie on a regular basis about just about well... everything. They swear Mars has no atmosphere, though there are photos out there that show clouds in the sky in Mars. They say Mars is smaller than it really is, etc, etc etc. You can't have Clouds without an atmosphere.

You can't have monuments and all sorts of artificial stuff including pyramids without there at least at one time having been life. Is every whistle blower that has come out and said something about Mars telling the truth? Probably not, there is a lot of disinformation that is constantly being put out, 90% Of Intelligence Budgets world wide are used (this was admitted publicly) for disinformation campaigns. The information available though, and the laws of average, and the photographic evidence, and testimony, etc from all over the world. Some of it at least has to be right, as it's said "Infinite Diversity In Infinite Combinations..." , this doesn't even factor in my own memories, intuition and contact with Tau Cetians, I'm just presenting verifiable information for those that are willing to expand their minds and consciousness a little and research things.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Moon » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:39 pm

I did see a few comments here which are borderline, but were not rude, Sunrise. Some people need a bit more proof than some of the sites out there give. I see how it can be frustrating when some people (put me in with them) continually question the sources of information. I try not to be rude about it, but I do want to see where the information originates and who is making what claims.

To be honest, there are so many sites that say one thing and others which contradict them it is hard to keep track of it all.

I try to stay in touch with some of the researchers out there but don't agree with them on all they state. I like Colin Wilson, but he thinks Uri Geller is a true psychic and believes Edgar Cayce was not a charlatan who gave out kitchen sink readings while his wife collected the money. So I have to really look at some of the things he claims and check out all of his sources.

I am here to keep the board civil, but I also think the critics have a right to ask their questions (in a civil way as always). There are many boards out there which will ban any skeptical idea or member. I think that shows they are more afraid of their own ideas being proven wrong than anything.

To be honest, the photo shows a close-up of what could be a monolith or a glitch in the photograph. I can't say it is one thing or the other, but I do say it should be looked at much more closely as I don't rule anything out. There is not enough information to make a statement one way or another, but the fact it is in a mainstream news outlet was also interesting to me.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Foxlike Mulder » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:48 am

We all seem to have different reference points for AAT/UFO/ET beliefs. One thing about this forum I like is the Moderators do a great job at "keeping the peace" and providing an environment where all are heard and respected. That said, I am not sure the laughing icon is the most respectful of responses; but in the same breath, an explanation given (as above) and taken as a matter of fact, has to be held to some kind of scrutiny. Because we all have varying reference points, it is almost a given we'll be at odds on certain subject matter. But because we're operating in an environment like this, we should all take care in reviewing the opinions/materials being presented. In the end, I think we're all here for one thing: the truth. And because we're all here looking for that one thing, I do believe that we all believe in some form or fashion. Ultimately, I think we would all like to find (or see/witness) that undeniable piece of evidence that proves everything and converts the unconverted..maybe that's why we're really here.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Sunrisepony » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:22 am

Max,

The one poster asked for sources, evidence to support what I said, I provided as asked for some sources for the information. The information I provided in the first comment is bits and pieces from multiple different sources, and years upon years of research. What I protested about was the disrespectful manner of the way Serene and the other poster responded to me. I am sure I can safely assume at this point we are all adults here, and in being adults can treat each other respectfully and maturely. That is all I'm asking for, to be treated with respect. And, THEY behaved disrespectfully in their responses. I pointed it out because that is unfair. Disrespectful Behavior should NOT be tolerated by anyone here, nor should the moderators and Admins permit it to be used on this or any other forum. The disrespectful posters could have simply said "Thank you" and looked into the information provided or not, they did not have to act disrespectfully. And, I disagree that it was "border line" it wasn't border line IMO, it was just flat out disrespectful. I seriously do not want to think I'm expecting to much out of this forum and it's members to be treated respectfully as we all should. It's one thing to have different levels of knowledge, different povs, different beliefs, etc.

That's all fine and dandy and part of what makes this board so interesting, and the world around us. We should all though be able to treat eachother respectfully or keep our comments/opinions/responses to ourselves. Seriously, if that's to much to ask here, and If I really am expecting to much out of the members here to be treated respectfully I'm not even going to bother with spending anymore of my time sharing information here. Nor will I even bother sending anyone here either, the people I am around now, surrounded by deserve that much, to be treated respectfully, and so do I. And, everyone else here.

You know, one of the main reasons we aren't getting mass open contact? There is no respect. And in that we don't respect ourselves, eachother or the planet we live on.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Moon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:29 pm

In all due respect Sunrise, the "evidence" you bring up comes from some rather fringe sites and the ones who asked for your sources commented about it as such.

I do my job to keep the peace and I did not see the responses they gave as disrespectful to you personally. We look at all responses and will not tolerate name calling and the like here. But sometimes a response is borderline and I will make a comment to keep it civil.

It is difficult enough to try and satisfy all elements and beliefs of the members, but toes are bound to get stepped on when it comes to ideas.

I will defend your right to write all your ideas in this forum, but I will also defend the other members' rights to question both the statements and the sources they come from.

If you have any questions or problems, you can PM either me or any other moderator/administrator. But please do not lecture us on how to do our jobs.

All Serene did was type what she was thinking out loud: "That was your source?" It is a bit snarky, but it is not disrespectful to you.

For all members please do not take some of the responses so personal. We are all here for the same reasons and that is to find out the truth and the evidence to support the hypothesis of the ancient astronaut theory.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Buzi-Blu » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:21 am

This thread is about a possible monolith on Mars, which is is another potential piece of evidence towards the AAT. It's an interesting topic and deserves further investigation and the very fact that such evidence is being presented and discussed shows that there is a large element of the unknown and that many of us here are willing to consider the possibility that it is not natural.

But to state as fact that humans have been on Mars seems to completely override the purpose of the thread. If such facts were provable then why would we be discussing a mere monolith? Such claims stated as fact do require proof, not just evidence but proof. If such proof existed then the AAT would no longer be a theory, it would be an accepted part of every day life. It is one thing to make a claim of something being true, but quite another to state it as fact as if it's indisputable.

About the photo - the shadows don't look quite right to me. It looks as if there are small mounds scattered about with the light coming from the right, but the monolith is lit from the bottom.
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Re: New Monolith on Mars Photo

Postby Foxlike Mulder » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:10 am

Buzi-Blu wrote:About the photo - the shadows don't look quite right to me. It looks as if there are small mounds scattered about with the light coming from the right, but the monolith is lit from the bottom.


I posted above about the differences in shadows between the monolith and the rounded boulder to the left (between 9 and 10 o'clock)...the NASA claim/explanation was that the monolith's shadow had some sort of pixilation which exaggerated the rectangular perspective...I said the boulder to the left did not have the same pictorial effect which therefore weakens their explanation. However, upon further inspection, the shadows are different. The shadows casted from both rocks appear to have different angles of projection, which shouldn't be the case for one picture taken from the same camera. It could be the shape of the second boulder which may not be entirely visible from the camera angle too, but it is an odd difference when you look at it more closely.
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