Kazoo Lines?

[Kazoo]

Hi all. Sorry if this is "old" news, but, I've never heard or seen these before. Just wondering if anyone else noticed these absolutly straight, dark lines that run paralel to each other. I was gooogle earth cruising the other night around Puma Punku and ended up going around the edge of Lake Titicaca when I noticed the strangest thing just under the water line. You have to see it for yourself on google earth. Start at 16'24'24.41 S 68'52'04.42'W elev 12530 ft (note you need the degrees sign after the 16 and 68). Anyway, once you get there and get focused on the dark line, try following and you will notice it is perfectly straight for miles. Next go to either left or right to see another line that runs paralel on each side. I counted 6 on the Peruvian side and way over 30 on the Bolivian side, all the exact same distance apart. Another starter spot is 16'28'31.50' S 68'53'54.81 W elev 12540 ft I have a feeling that there are way more of these lines in the lake but the resolution in google earth is crappy once you get further out in the lake. For those that have dificulty with google co-ordinates, (lol, I do too) the ones I could see are mostly in the bay beside Guaqui, left side all the way over to the point and beyond. More directions are available. I would attach screen shots with all the markers on them but I'm just getting started here (rookie). Anyway, please let me know what you think they may be. Thanks.

PS If this is "new" news, I'd like to call them the Kazoo Lines

[Lonewolf Howling]

Could you post a screenshot or something. 16'28'31.50' S 68'53'54.81 W Gets me in Manila. Road 16, Calcooca, Metro Manila. You never know you found something

[Serene]

Yes, would love to see a picture of this also. I can't find my way around google earth......
get totally lost.

[Kazoo]

Yes, would love to see a picture of this also. I can't find my way around google earth......
get totally lost.

Tried again and got this message Could not upload attachment to ./files/59235_7dabf0609777b877dabdf2921a8ff112.
It's just a wee file 587kb, I put some easy directions in a quote or was it a reply to Lonewolfs question

Here is another close location to start, Latitude 16°28'30.23"S Longitude 68°56'31.11"W elev 12546, or just google earth search Comunidad Santa Rosa and zoom into the water level (just about) around the peninsula. They all run east /west about a 100ft apart, Hope that helps...Oh ya, you will notice there is an eye alt indicator in the bottom right of google earth, you can see 2 lines on the same screen shot at eye alt 14451 ft

[Lonewolf Howling]

Is this the one ?
Never noticed it before Don't know what they are

[Foxlike Mulder]

Are all these lines in the lake, or under water?

One boring explanation could be telecommunication lines. It's not unusual to have these cables buried under water. I would be surprised however as I do believe that since much of this area is remote, that wireless telecommunication technology would be the cheapest and most effective way to provide service...yet, if it were done 20+ years ago, it would have been by cable. Le Paz is not too far off, so if they wanted to connect wireline to Peru, at some point they could have traversed the lake. There are many cables buried under the oceans between continents; doing so under large lakes would not be a stretch (I don't think).

[Kazoo]

Is this the one ?
Never noticed it before Don't know what they are

Yes, one of many. Glad someone else found them as well, was starting to think it was my computer screen, lol

Combined posts per forum rules. This is a freebie, the next one may be deleted. Mercury

Are all these lines in the lake, or under water?

One boring explanation could be telecommunication lines. It's not unusual to have these cables buried under water. I would be surprised however as I do believe that since much of this area is remote, that wireless telecommunication technology would be the cheapest and most effective way to provide service...yet, if it were done 20+ years ago, it would have been by cable. Le Paz is not too far off, so if they wanted to connect wireline to Peru, at some point they could have traversed the lake. There are many cables buried under the oceans between continents; doing so under large lakes would not be a stretch (I don't think).

I could see them burying one or two lines but 40plus lines would not be required especialy in a remote spot like that. Have you ever seen a line that straight and east west before anywhere? Looks they are all in the lake and where they cross over bits of land it looks like erosion has filled them in.

[Foxlike Mulder]

Are all these lines in the lake, or under water?

One boring explanation could be telecommunication lines. It's not unusual to have these cables buried under water. I would be surprised however as I do believe that since much of this area is remote, that wireless telecommunication technology would be the cheapest and most effective way to provide service...yet, if it were done 20+ years ago, it would have been by cable. Le Paz is not too far off, so if they wanted to connect wireline to Peru, at some point they could have traversed the lake. There are many cables buried under the oceans between continents; doing so under large lakes would not be a stretch (I don't think).

I could see them burying one or two lines but 40plus lines would not be required especialy in a remote spot like that. Have you ever seen a line that straight and east west before anywhere? Looks they are all in the lake and where they cross over bits of land it looks like erosion has filled them in.

The picture above is hard to read, so I can't make much of anything and I haven't looked on Google Earth yet for myself...I will take a look later. 40 lines would be too many for what I proposed, yes. Lines being completely straight would still fit within my theory however.

[Kazoo]

Yes, would love to see a picture of this also. I can't find my way around google earth......
get totally lost.

Here's a facebook link... http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 6356d63c1f

[Foxlike Mulder]

I don't want to download Google Earth because I don't like their privacy rules for users, so I can't review the images any further. However, I did some more research on Lake Titicaca and found there was an intersting discovery 12 years ago...an ancient temple buried under 100 feet of water. There is also a wall/road leading to the temple (also under water) that is a half-mile long. They estimate the temple to be the size of two football fields and is probably 1000-1500 years old. It is beyond me how they date to that number. If the temple is under 100 feet of water and a half mile out (at least), then it has been under water for a very long period of time. A flood that would cause that kind of destruction (burial) could not have occurred at that elevation only 1000-1500 years ago....at least in my opinion. I guess I would really need to see the site. Plus, researchers have found sea fossils dating to prehistoric times all in close proximity to these ruins.

As for the multiple lines...maybe roads, or more ruins?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/892616.stm

http://www.heritageaid.com/excavation1.htm

[Kazoo]

I don't want to download Google Earth because I don't like their privacy rules for users, so I can't review the images any further. However, I did some more research on Lake Titicaca and found there was an intersting discovery 12 years ago...an ancient temple buried under 100 feet of water. There is also a wall/road leading to the temple (also under water) that is a half-mile long. They estimate the temple to be the size of two football fields and is probably 1000-1500 years old. It is beyond me how they date to that number. If the temple is under 100 feet of water and a half mile out (at least), then it has been under water for a very long period of time. A flood that would cause that kind of destruction (burial) could not have occurred at that elevation only 1000-1500 years ago....at least in my opinion. I guess I would really need to see the site. Plus, researchers have found sea fossils dating to prehistoric times all in close proximity to these ruins.

As for the multiple lines...maybe roads, or more ruins?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/892616.stm

http://www.heritageaid.com/excavation1.htm

Thanks for the link Foxlike Mulder. Seems like the whole area is teaming with ruins and ledgends (even Jacques Cousteau visited). I have no doubt that those temple ruins are somehow connected to the lines. Makes sense that the lines would of been made when there was a lower water line otherwise alot of dredging would of been required. I'm thinking the sea fossils got there the same way they did at the top of the Rocky Mountains in Western Canada. I'd have assume that multiple heavy rainy seasons topped up the lake over a relatively short time, thus submerging alot of the area. When you said maybe the lines were roads, probaly not, only because all the road maps I've ever seen had intersections, these only run east west and they go from one shoreline to the opposite shoreline (every 100 ft aprox). Here 's a guess, maybe they were used for some kind of agricultural drainage or water collection purpose. But then again why would they have to be so perfectly straight and so exactly spaced apart from each other, ok, I'm still guessing, lol. As for dating the lines I wonder if the slight variation of their east west orientation could be attributed to a shift in the local landscape and if that shift could be dated then at least we'd know when they were aligned originaly.


Just had another thought after reading about the Puma Punku episode in here. What are odds that they were prepping the rock on the bottom of the lake for making those H blocks etc...that they were using, its just around the corner from there...Who else actualy used straight lines on their cuts?