The purpose of the pyramids (theories by members)

[Moon]

I hope it's real as I have to pay rent!

All kidding aside, there are many theories on the pyramids out there. I am one who does think the plans of where to put the pyramids are quite ancient. There is also evidence the platforms on which the pyramids were built are much older by several thousand years.

Were the blocks poured into place? Are the pyramids used for energy sources? Could they of been used to send people through stargates to the Otherworld or to other planets throughout the Universe(s)?

[Sunrisepony]

There is a Star Gate in the area, but it's not there in the pyramids. Apparently according to many that study Sacred Geometry that is very much the case that they were put for the purpose of balancing the orbit/rotation of the planet. Everything I've found so far...the Pyramids are at least 12,000 years old. I really think they were store houses for knowledge. Looking more into this whole "Holographic Universe" thing though. There are physicist that are starting to come around to that conclusion, specially those involved in Hyper Physics.

Modern Scientist Confirm My friend and others just might be right.. Our Universe Is A Hologram
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIJHJzDQcRM

Modern Science is now beginning to confirm what Spirituality, Philosophy, Sages, Ancient teachings and psychedelics have been saying for millennia, that the entire Universe is One and that what we think of as "reality" is just an illusion.. And the only real thing in the Universe is Consciousness.

"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet." ~ Niels Bohr"

[Moon]

Laurence Gardner is one author who proposes the pyramids as stargate theory. It is an interesting idea, and the mystery will only deepen until more exploration is done under the pyramids. With Dr Hawass back in charge, this seems unlikely.

[Sunrisepony]

Interesting. Well if what I have learned in past 8 weeks is anything to go by. There is A LOT of suppressed information and technology, and truths that will be coming out this year.

I really don't think the pyramids are star gates. Those are almost always, the natural ones anyway are placed over Nodes. Which are intersecting lines of the global energy grid. And, also I have to find it, but there is an article that shows photos etc. Of the star gate "near" the pyramids. But, nothing even on the energy grid lines up for one to be there. Star Gates are also always placed over vortexes, or high energy concentrations where the crust is thinnest. They can only naturally occur where an energy grid node and vortex intersect. Like Sedona Arizona, or StoneHenge for example.

[Thath]

That's a really interesting theory, I understand the general concept. I just don't have the proper background to prove/test your theories. However from a motive standpoint, there is a lot backing the idea that a gold machine would have been of great importance.

Now to play devils advocate for a minute, if the Great Pyramid was just a gold machine what is the point of the all effort put into the astrological positions of the pyramid. I doubt that the location and orientation of the Great Pyramid was just a fluke, it has to have some significance.

My guess would be that it perhaps had multiple uses ?

[evgenyzhukov]

Hi Erich

My name is Evgeny Zhukov. I am Author of the book «The Road to Home». Hardly ever you know my name or my book, but it contains extremely important information for all Human race – for all Mankind. I managed to solve mystery of Egyptian pyramids, Easter Island stone statues, Stonehenge and many other megalithic structures on Earth. I know how they have been working and what purposes they’ve been serving for. This knowledge did not come to me from nowhere. These megalithic structures have been built by highly advanced extraterrestrial civilization especially for Mankind. They are just time capsule – letter for us, which contains high knowledge and extraterrestrial super technologies, such as free energy technology and antigravity. Eventually it has led me to the reason of all global climate catastrophes on Earth in the long past and to the fact that Earth as well as the Moon has been created artificially! It coincided with Nicola Tesla’s theory of Ether. My discoveries have easily explained most science mysteries, such as the reason of gravity, reason of water evaporation, steam expansion, fusion etc. It explained how all planets and stars work and how they are arranged. I discovered how climate works, the real reason of such disasters as Tropical hurricanes, Tornadoes, Tsunami waves, Earthquakes and how all Volcanoes work.

Besides, having discovered anti-gravity technology, I found ancient launch pad in South America for ancient spacecrafts and flying saucers lift off, where anti-gravity technology have been applied!

But it was just a beginning.

As the next step I discovered that the whole Universe is divided to two types of energy – as plus and minus, as white and black, as good and evil.

Attention!!! I discovered that there are reasonable beings of different polarities in the Universe as well. I have incontestable proof ( It is all in my book) that reasonable beings of different then our (human) polarity ARE HERE! I discovered that they just adore concave surfaces. It appeared that the Moon is covered by concave surfaces not in vain. Inner caverns deep under the ground are concave surfaces as well. A bit later I heard about David Icke books and, of course, about reptilian agenda. He is 100% right.

Do you know that the deepest concave surfaces on Earth are – Dead Sea near Israel and Death Valley in USA?

But there is much more to come.

I discovered that our Solar system is divided to two spheres of influence: First includes Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. It is under control of Humanoid species. Second includes other planets. It is under Reptoid’s control.

It appeared that other Humanoid species are capable to receive energy directly – not from digestive system. In fact, many of Humanoid species even have neither digestive system nor respiratory system and could live on any planet! But, there is one very important condition:

THERE MUST BE SPECIAL PROTECTIVE GAS COVER AROUND THE PLANET, WHICH PROTECTS ANY LIVE CREATURE FROM SOLAR AND SPACE RADIATION – THE MAIN REASONS OF PHYSICAL BODY FAILURE AS A RESULT OF AGEING.

Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune have such gas cover. Other planets of Solar system have not. That is why we live no longer then 60 – 80 years. There was such gas cover around planet Earth in the long past. That time people call as HEAVEN! That was when people have been living for 800 – 1000 years. It appeared that pyramids worldwide are part of Heaven creation technology!!!.......Pyramids can produce this special protective gas cover around the planet from just ordinary water!!!.......

As it appeared, human mature age is about 300 – 400 years old, of course, under condition of solar and space radiation absence. Not 30 – 40 years old as we think. All this time human brain evolves. If it stops evolving at the age of 45 years old (most people’s brain starts degrade affected by solar and space radiation), human brain’s capability would not exceed 10 – 15 % of its potential power!!!

So then!!!..................... If someone would like to control Mankind, he would not want us to exceed 10 – 15 %................

I applied to sixteen publishers in Russia to publish my book, but they refused. Russian mass media ignored me either.

My book “The Road to Home”, where the whole information is, exists as eBook and is being distributed from my personal Web Site:
Personal website deleted due to rules against advertising-MM The whole book consists of seven chapters and Epilogue. Russian version of the book consists of 10 chapters. I did not translate three more chapters from Russian to English yet. If you are interested, download first part of the book from deleted
(Do not copy this link. Link should be printed manually, because Web sometimes deform this link)
Full version I will send you, if you are interested.

I am sure the whole Mankind needs these discoveries. We must to inform people worldwide.

[Moon]

Hi Evgeny and thank you for sharing those ideas. I removed the link to the websites as advertising for personal gain is against the rules set by Giorgio himself. If people are interested about your book, they can PM you and you can furnish the information to them.

We have had a bunch of problems in the recent past about a few bad apples soliciting stuff here. They do ruin it for the others, but it is best to be safe than sorry.

If you have any problems or questions, you can PM me or any other administrator/moderator and we will gladly assist you,

Lloyd

[evgenyzhukov]

Sensation!!! Mystery of Egyptian pyramids, Easter Island stone statues, Stonehenge and many other ancient stone structures is solved at last!!! As it has appeared, these time capsules contain very high knowledge and extraterrestrial super technologies coded in their design. I’ve been doing my research of ancient structures for three years now and I managed to discover the connection between all these structures. That has led me to the greatest scientific discoveries of all times and to the real breakthrough in technologies. These ancient structures have been built by highly advanced extraterrestrial civilization, which initiated the whole process of life on our planet. They have created people using huge database of DNA. Dozens of thousands of years ago, right after the creation of Mankind, they have taught people how to survive in wild nature; how to harvest crops, breed domestic animals and other basic skills. They just could not give people the whole essential knowledge and highest technologies because people at those times were not ready for it. It took thousands of years before people reached the level of consciousness to be ready to receive highest knowledge and super technologies. That is why they coded this knowledge and technologies in the form of stone structures as time capsules. For that they have built pyramids all over the Globe, megalithic stone structures like Stonehenge, Easter Island statues, and many others. Besides, they have coded this high knowledge in the form of traditions, celebrations, legends, folklore, fairytales and even toys which they have handed over to our far ancestors so that they pass it through from generation to generation. They are time capsules too! Besides, they have created lots of animals, insects and plants, which are time capsules as well!!! Many of them are bearers of highest knowledge and super technologies which is smartly hidden in design of their bodies!!! I managed to decode them all. As a result of decoding ancient stone structures and other time capsules, Mankind now receives high knowledge: 1. The reason of terrestrial gravity and gravity of all other planets and stars. 2. The reason why all stars and planets are very hot inside - what is the source of never-ending energy. 3. 100% proof that the Earth, the Moon and the whole Solar system have been created artificially! 4. The reason of global catastrophes thousands of years ago and the reason of modern global climate change. 5. Technology of collecting free, never-ending and boundless energy (Detailed description of the thermonuclear reactor which works without any fuel - source of free and boundless energy is described in my book “The Road to Home”.) 6. Anti-gravity technology. (Detailed description of anti-gravity technology for the objects of any weight and any size is described in my book either.) 7. How climate works. How weather is being formed. 8. The reason of storm-hurricanes, tornadoes, volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunami-waves occurrence and how they work! 9. The proof of the Paradise existence on Earth in the long past. (Detailed description of the technology which helps to create special defensive cover around the planet made of steam and gases. This cover defends against solar deadly rays and cosmic radiation, which are the main reasons of human short life span. The same cover as Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune have!!! 10. Technology of destruction of all human illnesses including cancer!!! 11. Technology of receiving energy by people directly – not from food – apart from digestive and respiratory systems!!! 12. The reason of human short life span. Human life span prolongation technology!!! 13. The proof that death in fact does not exist (People have bodies, apart from physical body, beyond visible spectrum of frequencies)!!! 14. What Egyptian pyramids, Stonehenge, Easter Island stone statues, Teotihuacan and other ancient stone structures have been constructed for and how they’ve been working. All this wonderful discoveries have appeared as a result of discovery of a very special matter, which I call Universe Wind. The genius of the last century - Nicola Tesla has discovered this matter as well about one hundred years ago and called it Ether. This matter is the source of boundless and never-ending energy in the Universe. The whole Universe consists of this wonderful matter for 99%. Some sources call this matter as Dark Energy, because his matter is not visible and far beyond visible spectrum. It has special properties which allow it to come through any subject on Earth freely without affecting this subject in any way. Only liquids and materials of very high density are being affected by this matter. Because of movement of all cosmic objects, including Sun and Earth, in this matter, there is a constant flow of its atoms through any subject on Earth. Solid objects, like stones, for instance, are capable to decline this matter atoms trajectories for very small angle. Such geometrical figures as cubes, cylinders, spheres, cones and pyramids are capable to concentrate this matter atoms and direct them to one point, line or plane. Because nearly all cosmic objects have spherical shape, stars and planets are capable to concentrate Universe Wind atoms into their cores. Because of huge sizes of all stars and planets and intense Universe Wind atoms concentration in their cores, thermonuclear reaction of the Universe Wind atoms takes place in all stars and planets cores, which is the source of very high temperature inside all stars and planets. The friction of Universe Wind atoms inside stars or planets against each other and against core atoms causes static charging of core atoms, which is the reason of gravity. It is because all subjects on Earth surface have static charge of different polarity then the Earth’s core charge! Huge stone pyramids are also capable to concentrate Universe Wind atoms inside themselves but only under condition of having ideally polished surface – stone casing. I want to remind you that all pyramids in Egypt do not have such surface because their casing stones have been removed in ancient times. That is why pyramids do not work these days………….. But volcanoes work! All volcanoes are cones as you already know. They do not have ideally polished surface, but they are huge. That is enough for them to raise high temperature inside. That is right. Volcanoes do not have any connection to the Earth core and its lava. They are absolutely autonomous. They produce their own lava on their own. So now you know that pyramids are the source of free, boundless and never-ending energy. But there’s much more to come: When stone pyramid or cone works, high static charge appears inside it, because of high density of Universe Wind atoms and friction atoms against each other. This static charge has the same polarity and source as the static charge inside the Earth’s core. Do you know that charges of the same polarity escape each other!!! That is right. Pyramid is the key element of my anti-gravity technology which will revolutionize this World and will save Mankind in the case of new global disaster! If you got interested, the whole and detailed information you will find in my book. My name is Evgeny Zhukov and I am the author of the book “The Road to Home”. My Website is http://zhukovroad.com . I will continue my publications in the next issues. Thank you.

[Moon]

I merged the thread with the other one to keep the conversation in one place.

MM

[yerock III stoneman]

Hello, Evgenyzhukov.
Why don't you send a copy of your book to Maxmercury, our resident critic. He could review it here for all of us.
... Peace.

[Moon]

Hello, Evgenyzhukov.
Why don't you send a copy of your book to Maxmercury, our resident critic. He could review it here for all of us.
... Peace.

If anything, I will probably get the book in the near future. Right now I am reading on Russian history and have a large backlog of reading to do.

I would always pay for a book as the author worked hard on it and deserves to be compensated. (Unless I get it at the library.)

[yerock III stoneman]

Argus, builder of the Argo, told Jason (when he was bringing home the Golden Fleece) that the "Egyptians preserved tablets of stone which their ancestors engraved with maps giving the outlines of the land and sea and the routes in all directions."
So...where's the map(s)? The World map. And where's the lid to the "coffer" in the Kings Chamber? Could they be one and the same?
And what other information, if any, might be on the map (lid)? Symbols of the pyramid builders heritage?
If we momentarily put aside questions like How was it built or Who built it, or Was it a functioning machine, and concentrate instead on some of the facts surrounding the Great Pyramid that most of us can agree on, we can see a pattern.

The pyramid sits at 30° N, so the builders knew their latitude. It has the dimensions of the earth built into it. The Egyptians mapped their country's east and west boundaries and middle meridian (longitude lines) as far north as Russia-(Stecchini appendix to Secrets of the Great Pyramid by Peter Tompkins). They surveyed those 3 meridians along the river Dnieper for 10 degrees, centering on 50°12'N (my observation), transferring Egyptian place names to Russia. The map was used at the end of the 6th century B.C., but could be older.
The Great Pyramid has a slope about 51°51'. On Earth, @ 51° is where we find the average length of a degree of latitude, and that information is important in making measurements that incorporate units of the earth.
And they knew their stars. They used the stars to help align the pyramid, and they aligned the shafts in the Great Pyramid to the stars.
It's all so precisely well done, I can't see how the earth could have shifted much (other than precession) since the Great Pyramid was built. Thanx, pyramid guys, and gals. That may be one intention of the builders.
I believe another purpose of the Great Pyramid was to house a map of the world along with information about the makers identity. It was made into a lid for the "coffer" in the kings chamber. My big question is where is the map (lid) today. Would the present owner know what it is? Was the Golden Fleece really a secret reference to the map?
... Peace.

[Sagittarii]

I don't want to be mean but.......c'mon now!

[Moon]

I don't want to be mean but.......c'mon now!

You got me, I like free as much as the next guy and look at some of those sites to get these books for pennies (I have many like new books for only one cent plus shipping).

[Sagittarii]

What I was trying to say Max is this guy is claiming to have solved all the worlds greatest mysteries......I think he's crazy.

[yerock III stoneman]

Guess I won't hold my breath for that book review that I was so seriously looking forward to.
... Peace

[Moon]

What I was trying to say Max is this guy is claiming to have solved all the worlds greatest mysteries......I think he's crazy.

There are many who claim to have all the answers. I listen to what researcher SFC Clifford Stone (USA-Ret) has to say about them:

"Anyone claiming to know the entire truth is a liar."

I am not saying the OP is, but it takes a lot to prove all of these ideas out there.

[isitmeorwhott?]

I read a little and I am not a big reader. And never was. But from glancing over it I can see that this book may have found a little proof in the pudding. " Hey that reminds me mom just made a huge bowl of tapioca. I think I will get a big bowl!" I have found out that her pudding makes me eat more and think less .Ahh...... being in touch with mom's tapioca pudding.' Sum's it all up for me!

[yerock III stoneman]

Hello, isitmeorwhott. On closer inspection, I think I see your point, the proofs in the pudding. And if the pudding is tasting real good (like moms), then:
"I believe everything. ... And, I believe nothing." - Clouseau, Insp. - A Shot in the Dark
... Peace.

[isitmeorwhott?]

You said a mouthful! I glanced at it and it looked liked a thesis of some of my threads. with alot better typing and grammar skills. Everything can be solved as far as I am conCERNed. But a recipe of mom's tapioca pudding and slopping down a bowl ot two with ready wip are not the same. HEY! I GOT A RECIPE FOR ISITME's MOM"S TAPIOCA! "Hey is your mom Czech. or something? I can't even decipher 1 cup or 1qt. and there is alot of something is missing in the whole batch? But I tell em' "Recipe?" I never saw her read any recipe?" Well you know what I mean. Sometimes the best answers of the biggest question sare in the most or by the most least likely place or person are staring us right in the face! Secrets and answers are always right under our noses. And sometimes the places or people you find them out from are the least obviouse place you will look, usually the last place or at all until you put 2and2 together at 3 A.M. while lying in bed and then all of a sudden. That's it! WOW!.... " WELL WHO DA THUNK!"

[yerock III stoneman]

Hey isitmeorwhott. That puddin' recipe IS right under our noses, but still out of reach. I think many of us are stumbling over the answers we're looking for without realizing it.
... Peace.

[isitmeorwhott?]

I believe they are half inside and half outside our bodies and minds. It is not only all the evidence we find that is a physical object that we can actually touch.But it is also what we are in touch within ourselves. Hey the AA theory like all religions and beliefs are also on very individual and personal level I think too. our instincts, who we are,where we've been, with who.and so on.
Even if you totally believe the theory we all contradict a feeling or thought that we may have that it is also inside ourselves too.We may feel that we are not worthy to be a part of the picture. So we take that feeling and tuck it deep inside. Believing that what is on the outside is fact. But denying any thoughts within yourself that you yourself are making it all possible and have made this unfolding story totally yours. And everybody elses too.
It goes to show that we are being humble to others and this is what makes us a social being. Who actually does care about the feelings of others.
Hey life itself sometimes is a very selfish thing. And sometimes we don't want to show that. So we clam up. However if we are gtateful for who or where or what we are, and thankful and let others know how thankful and grateful we are in our lives. Then it's much easier to talk to others about ourselves. Then we are all ready and not to offended anyone by saying, I and me,me and I. and we would all take our turns and speak and not be afraid of how it has personaly involved each one of us. Isitmeorwhott?

[George Moss]

Hello, I am George Moss and I would very much like to share information on this topic. Material examination and research can be a laborious process! I speak for a well established UK seance group containing mediums, scientists, teachers etc that has developed over the years wonderful connections ... sometimes I think more than we deserve. Our principle guide in spirit 'Salumet' is of all-knowledge and from Angelic Realms. And he has arranged for us a link with 'Bonniol' who has his seance group on distant Planet Aerah. (There are books on these matters, known to the Internet, such that key words 'Salumet' and 'Chronicles of Aerah' can be Googled should any wish to check further). But what is important here is the teaching received:

Briefly, The Great Pyramid of Egypt was built by extraterrestrials a little over 12,000 years ago, using their own methods of construction that involved dematerialisation / placement / rematerialisation (to achieve easy shaping,easy non-heavy transport and perfect fit of blocks). The East-West orientation of a pair of pyramid sides generates an energy from Earth rotation*. The pyramid was multi-functional, in the first place to facilitate space-travel. It was also visited by many for purpose of healing and it was a teaching centre. (The cartouches and the idea of burial chamber came much, much later, long after the ETs had left.) Osiris, Isis and Horus were real and were the last of the ET-beings. After they left, the civilization that had so much going for it sadly, steadily crumbled ... materialism, greed and accumulation of wealth took over as spiritual values diminished. Later, pharaohs organised less spectacular pyramids for themselves built by human muscle.

It is also our information that the currently controversial Bosnian pyramids are authentic and had similar extraterrestrial input. They are larger and older with age in excess of 24,000 years.

* Interesting scientific work by Russian scientists confirms the energy and the effects of the pyramid energy, and in their experiments radar has revealed a column of energy rising vertically from constructed models.

[Moon]

I decided to merge a half dozen threads into one as they all are the same basic one of purpose or reason for the pyramids. I think they are all valid and many repeat what has been said before. I want to keep the discussion on one major thread for the sole purpose of theories of the pyramids only.

I will keep separate many aspects of the topics such as if the thread deals with building materials or of a theory by an author. But individual ideas will stay in one big umbrella.

There are some outstanding ideas and the whole thread is a worthy read.

[timeTraveler]

I wrote the origin of this chain almost 4 years ago. At that time had reasoned that the effort to build the three pyramid is far too big if there is now big benefits to come. So I gathered it might be some way connected to space travel. Quite a lot has happened since. First I read the Christopher Dunn's book: The Giza Power Plant (1998). So it it 14 years since the book was published, but I think this is one of the great work (of course after the great Däniken's an eye-opening series of book in 1980s). Dunn work is so strait forward and convincing. Of course the fortune here was his large experience of machine stone cutting and all the aspect of the tolerances in the precision work. Never the less hes results are so stunning and hard fact that you actually can not find any main-stream archeologist with their tomb-theory and primitive building argument to have any debate over these issue, because the would look and sound ridiculous.

Everything about machine marks and the high precision that he brought to the daylight leaves absolutely no room for any doubts. This is why the main-stream is totally quiet about this. Where all his conclusion are true or not doesn't make so mach difference. The fact is that he is on the right tract and he has advanced far on that path. After this I have also learned to notice those machine marks.
Many people in Europe ( at least in Rome, and Paris) can see these with their own eyes. In Rome there are Egyptian obelisks in many places. All the hieroglyphs in the granite obelisks are machine-carved and they are beautiful. Then there are two granite lions in the courtyard of Vatican museum as well as the two granite sphinx inside the Museum. These are also machine made. There is also an Egyptian obelisk in Paris at Concord Square.

I have also read since that 2008 a few book by Zecharia Sihcin (for example: 12th Planet , Stairways to Heaven etc.). These texts give us very strong and from place to place detail description of the associations and the connections between the old stories about gods and the artifact that we find.

[lamplight]

this has been super interesting. I'm new to all this.. im partway though ancient aliens S3, just finished the Orion mystery which I loved. last night saw a nova special on the sphinx with that director of antiquities guy some of you have mentioned.. it's clear he is full of himself and stubborn just by watching him.. have seen him in many shows.. this was the episode where some guy recreated stone and copper tools .. they concluded it could be done, carving the sphynx with those tools..even before learning about the AA theory I've always thought that is absurd. even the sculptor with modern steel tools who was to make a small 2' replica complained that the harder stone up top would ruin his modern steel tools,.. I can't believe what they (mainstream arheologists) pass off as fact with such assurance!

[Moon]

Dr Robert Schoch is another person whose work you might be interested in. He is a geologist who brings erosion and other methods to age the monuments out there. His findings on the Sphinx have led to a firestorm of controversy. He dared to state it was built at least 5000 BCE or more probably much earlier. This was done as he inspected the heavy rain damage on the top of the Sphinx itself.

Some have suggested this was done because of the flooding of the Nile, but that would mean catastrophic flooding which the surrounding geology does not support.

[varg]

Are there any proof that the great pyramids were tombs? A big box is no proof, not even close... it's just a box.
Many people with scientific education and many others claims that the great pyramids were no tombs and that they probably served another purpose. Will our history books in school ever be updated on this? But in this subject, science probably has no future. History is already written, you can't change the past that easy...

Regards

[timeTraveler]

....
Many people with scientific education and many others claims that the great pyramids were no tombs and that they probably served another purpose. Will our history books in school ever be updated on this? But in this subject, science probably has no future. History is already written, you can't change the past that easy...

Regards

Well the writing of history is actually a tool to use power and govern. It is actually as easily changed as written in the first place. The hard evidence of extraterrestrial presence of actually long period in previous human past is really hard and leaves no doubts. It is so to speak carved in huge stone granite and limestone. There are actually at leas three aspects: the huge size and weight, machine tool marks and the incredible precision. So it is actually ridiculous even claim anything else.

So one is to ask the motivation to act against clear evidence. Clearly the situation has be totally different 100 years ago and even 50 years ago, but today?
At least it is clear that admitting all this could be a serious treat to every religion on the earth.

Any other motivations?

[caveman82]

The size and workmanship on the megaliths is not evidence of anything You must strive to disprove your own theory's inorder to confirm them. Logical criticism is a healthy step to revealing the true picture.

[timeTraveler]

Anyone who read Christopher Dunn book about the precision and the complex precise geometry can easily understand – if they are not complete idiots and without any logic at all - and be convinced that the tools proposed to achieve this are a complete mismatch. Even the assembly of the great pyramid with its 2 500 000 1,5 ton stone can easily convince a person with normal intelligence and without any prejudices

[caveman82]

Don't get me wrong mate, I'm in know doubt that the objects you talk of could not have been made using copper tools.
But a gap in are past is not evidence of anything, other than that we or missing something. I don't dismiss the socially ungraspabel theory that are ancestors possessed vastly advance technology. How can I.

[timeTraveler]

I am sorry if you felt offended -that was not eighter my message or intention. My point still is that it the situation is completely unintellectual or stupid. The evidence is there crystal clear and 100% - there is no doubt about it!

My original question was - and is - why this stupid and stubborn attached to stupid explication ? I think that big part here play people with religious position and influence. Admitting the extraterrestrial influence would completely collapse all religions on the globe!

[lamplight]

well let's be objective.. it's not exactly clear that it was aliens.. (although it is also my personal belief as its logical).. but it is clear that technology was spookily more advanced than we have even now. .. another point about the tools.. not only size, weight quarry and transport issues... but the FINISH of these stones.. smooth .. straight and precise... that's an extra layer to me.. (if done with primitive tools.. ).

another thing that looks more and more likely the more I learn is that humanity probably "rebooted" at least once and maybe several times..

so so much mystery.. some religions seem ready for it.. clearly others not.

[caveman82]

Poor developing countries depend heavily on religion for stability amongst there population. I dread to images what the world would be like if that was smashed. You, I and most the developed world can live in harmony with no god. But for 90% of the people on this planet, he's still a fundamental part on society. a lot of money is spent on national security, we couldn't afford to live in a world with out the Old mighty.