Possible proof that ancient aliens visited the planet?

[Dr. Z]

We can tell from the bones of animals how they died, and if they suffered some sort of Trauma. If any ancient aliens like the sport of hunting ( I hate it by the way ) perhaps one day the evidence will be in dinosaur bones?

Just a theory, but if such a find occurs it will add another notch in the AAT.

Thoughts?

[Foxlike Mulder]

I don't like hunting either.

I think it depends on a couple things. One, how smart were the dinosaurs and would they be any kind of hunting challenge for an advanced race. Two, assuming you have an advanced race that would embrace the "sport" of hunting (ala Predators), then I would think they'd look for more challenge in the sport and therefore bypass dinosaurs and search for something more difficult, like humans! I'd like to think as races (species) evolve and become more advanced, the barabaric nature of hunting would become obsolete. Obviously this hasn't happened with us yet!

[Kazoo]

unless you have a better explanation (see puma punku area)...they are about 450 yds apart on google earth
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[Moon]

All of the mysterious ancient monuments and megaliths could just mean there was a forgotten advanced civilization on this world. They do not prove we were visited by aliens.

[polaris]

When scientific principles are used to investigate these "forgotten advanced civilizations" - references are found that these people came down from the sky to start human-based civilizations (at least 5!).
Many (independently written) early human writings also describe them flying around in aeroplanes and artists of the time actually sculpted images of these aeroplanes and flight suits - not to mention the battles they fought.

And when they left, they said they were coming back!

In the meanwhile, we were given some basic tenets that we're supposed to live by...some of the races have been better at living up to those tenets than others...

They even taught each of the five races how to keep earthly time, with a count of 360.
And for agricultural purposes they taught how to track the same day each year (the equinox) - the planting schedule would get screwed up otherwise!

[timeTraveler]

@Mercury Your argument is valid. If our work hypotheses is that “they were aliens from the sky” that in addition to explaining the megalithic and high precision stone work it would also
1) explain all peculiar texts all over the world describing all kind of “gods” coming from space with all kind of rocket like equipment. So as a side effect it would explain all religion in a very understandable way.
2) It would also explain the unmatched high knowledge of overall universe and our solar system and the calendar of the earth.

3) and finally it would easy the explanation how and where and how this high civilization developed and where they disappeared

[Moon]

I am not going to rule out extraterrestrial visitation either. I just want to show there are two valid theories on this subject and if one wants to make an extraterrestrial argument they need more than a few ancient texts which have been translated into many different meanings.

I do like the artifacts in the shape of astronauts and ships, but again, they are not proof in themselves. Arguments can be made they are either ceremonial or possibly we had spaceflight back then as well.

The point is not being painted into a corner by only going with the one theory. There is too much out there to say civilization began 5000 years ago. The mainstreamers want us to not look deeper and say it is possible there was a very ancient civilization that was 10,000 years ago or even 250,000 years ago.

I say it is both and the civilization had contact with extraterrestrials. That would account for all the tales of half fish half human visitors.

[polaris]

IMV half truths are the hardest to debate because they are partially true. Case in point is, "a few ancient texts which have been translated into many different meanings". While that statement is true, it leaves unsaid that there are many, many similarities in translation - too many to be coincidence IMV.

The argument that the "golden flyers" were ceremonial! (aka toys) Ah come on! That is hardly scientific! AA theorist went one better on AA series, they applied scientific principles and revealed that these pure gold "toys" were in fact miniature models of aircraft - proven to be flight worthy! Isn't the latter the better explanation! Using common sense. If it looks like a..., if it feels like a..., if it smells like a..., if it tastes like a..., and if it flies like a..., it is a ...!

As I see it, it's the debunkers that are painting themselves into a corner by denying, as more and more discoveries are made, that things are aligning more and more like off-world people are very intimately involved with human life on this planet.

The case that human life on this earth started around 3000 BC - I take it that that is a quote of someone's interpretation of the Christian Bible (aka the one that was re-written in 'modern times' (325 AD)). Ah come on! Science did prove the earth was round, while not that long ago, it is an oblate spheroid. That one position is probably thee one that paints christian dogma into thee corner! Science has already debunked that dogma - it's the orthodoxy that can't accept it!

This planet has been around for 1000's of millions of years. It has been habitable for 100's of millions of years. Humanoids have been evolving on this planet for 10's of millions of years.

The off-world people must have a home planet, the simplest explanation is that they are on an another planet in this solar system vs from a constellation. Science has proven the planet is not closer to the sun (than earth) so it has to be further out (from earth). Oh look there is a huge orbital hole between Mars & Jupiter...

Can we find references (in ancient text) of another planet in solar orbit? where these people may be from. If they were 'advanced' and had space flight, were intimately involved in setting up 5 major civilizations on earth, teaching us things that we are only now beginning to discovery and prove ourselves. Surely 'to god' we can make inferences (connect the dots) of some of the inexplicable things we continually find around the world!

[Caveman In Space]

I'm trying to put myself in the aliens shoes for a minute:

I already KNOW aliens exist due to the laws of physics consistently applying themselves to all objects in the viewable universe. So, it's just a matter of time before we get evidence for that. That's not my issue..

My issues is moreso concentrated on the idea there is a 50/50 chance that intersteller space travel can only be done AT the speed of light, or instantaneously.

If it can ONLY be traversed at the speed of light --- then the chances of us ever meeting another civilization depends on vast amounts of time needed to span that kind of a distance from us to them. They could very well be in stasus and will awake when their onboard systems detect life. It might just be automatic and they've figured out how to make time stop for themselves while in stasus. The ship would basically take care of everything.

Now.... if space travel from one point in space to another can be done instantaneously which is what spooky action at a distance is telling us then, ... they may have been or .....are already here.

Anybody ever watch the new Dr. WHO? ... my point exactly.

Bottom line is... if they were here for anything other than a peaceful agenda, the human race would have been enslaved or destroyed by now. My guess is they would do what WE would do.. and that is, be peaceful discoverer's of new worlds because with the power to travel anywhere at anytime instantly... who would need to worry about resources to survive? ... They would be plentiful.

My outlook on the future is a bright one. We'll contact them someday, as long as the insane radicals of the world do not destroy themselves and us in the process.

-C.M.

[polaris]

I'm trying to put myself in the aliens shoes for a minute:

I already KNOW aliens exist due to the laws of physics consistently applying themselves to all objects in the viewable universe. So, it's just a matter of time before we get evidence for that. That's not my issue..

My issues is moreso concentrated on the idea there is a 50/50 chance that intersteller space travel can only be done AT the speed of light, or instantaneously.

If it can ONLY be traversed at the speed of light --- then the chances of us ever meeting another civilization depends on vast amounts of time needed to span that kind of a distance from us to them. They could very well be in stasus and will awake when their onboard systems detect life. It might just be automatic and they've figured out how to make time stop for themselves while in stasus. The ship would basically take care of everything.

Now.... if space travel from one point in space to another can be done instantaneously which is what spooky action at a distance is telling us then, ... they may have been or .....are already here.

Anybody ever watch the new Dr. WHO? ... my point exactly.

Bottom line is... if they were here for anything other than a peaceful agenda, the human race would have been enslaved or destroyed by now. My guess is they would do what WE would do.. and that is, be peaceful discoverer's of new worlds because with the power to travel anywhere at anytime instantly... who would need to worry about resources to survive? ... They would be plentiful.

My outlook on the future is a bright one. We'll contact them someday, as long as the insane radicals of the world do not destroy themselves and us in the process.

-C.M.

While we agree on the need for vast distances to be overcome, as it is time dependent - I think the distance is interplanetary vs interstellar - hence a common sun...
Definitely a peaceful agenda!
They're in contact with us now, as they have been from the beginning, their planet is in solar orbit, life in the solar system started there...and moved inward towards the sun...

[Dr. Z]

All of the mysterious ancient monuments and megaliths could just mean there was a forgotten advanced civilization on this world. They do not prove we were visited by aliens.

Agreed, but how were the monuments moved, and built? Presumably an advanced civilization 1,000's of years ago would have left something behind for us to discover ( Machines, books, recoding devices ). There is no such evidence.

[Moon]

All of the mysterious ancient monuments and megaliths could just mean there was a forgotten advanced civilization on this world. They do not prove we were visited by aliens.

Agreed, but how were the monuments moved, and built? Presumably an advanced civilization 1,000's of years ago would have left something behind for us to discover ( Machines, books, recoding devices ). There is no such evidence.

I agree there is no evidence out there to show they had machines other than Christopher Dunn's work. He does think they have large machines buried somewhere in the desert.

I am trying to show just the one theory can paint us in a corner. If we do find all of these answers are because of a civilization from antiquity it would change everything about history itself.

My one problem with the extraterrestrials doing all the work is why? I can see them helping us out with simple technology to give us a "boost", but I don't see why they would do all the work themselves.

[polaris]

people evolving, departing and leaving no message behind - leads one to believe that they haven't left.
if we paint ourselves into a corner that"Cracks the Code", count me in!...
building structures that can withstand most of what a planet can bring! Sign me up...
while I believe there are people from another planet behind our ancient civilizations and not mere visitors, they are ultimately our ancestors. It is comforting to know that their purpose is not mastery...

[timeTraveler]

I agree with Mercury. There MUST be a reason why they did what they did. I believe that Giza pyramids have been built for highly important benefit -like energy production.

I don't see any completing reason why there should be signatures or similar. If we look our outdated or current factories, there are no text on the walls why there were built or who owned them.
I do believe that at one time there was a good reason for them to exploit the resources of the earth and that it took quite long time – perhaps even thousands of years. Most probable time when Giza was built would be around 10 500 BC.

We have the last clues of their departure: why & when, but many things points to the direction of quick, sudden or by surprise.

By the way this also explains ALL the religions world wide in a very rational way and leaves no room for any speculations.

[polaris]

I agree with Mercury. There MUST be a reason why they did what they did. I believe that Giza pyramids have been built for highly important benefit -like energy production. I think all AAT's think that there is a reason why - it's the timeframe that's the hardest for Christian scientists to admit, that there are 4 older races...
I don't see any completing reason why there should be signatures or similar. If we look our outdated or current factories, there are no text on the walls why there were built or who owned them.
I do believe that at one time there was a good reason for them to exploit the resources of the earth and that it took quite long time – perhaps even thousands of years. Most probable time when Giza was built would be around 10 500 BC. There is evidence that they have been around this planet for millions of years... the pyramids within america's tropics, are the oldest of the five. Has anyone calculated the tonnage of all ancient structures?

We have the last clues of their departure: why & when, but many things points to the direction of quick, sudden or by surprise. While they have "faded back" imv that they will return just like if they were from a planet in solar orbit...every 13 capacs...

By the way this also explains ALL the religions world wide in a very rational way and leaves no room for any speculations. not quite sure how encompassing this is...

[Moon]

There is a new book coming out by the original master of the genre Erich von Daniken:

Evidence of the Gods: A Visual Tour of Alien Influence in the Ancient World

I think this will aid us as it looks quite good. Herr von Daniken has assembled the best evidence to support the idea of ancient astronaut visitation and I look forward to reading it.

November 20, 2012 is the release date, a perfect Christmas gift.

[timeTraveler]

Great I must get that book.

I think (as I already probably said) there is overwhelming amount of evidence. The “hard” evidence is also most convincing. The megalithic stone ( mainly granite ) structures COMBINE with the working precision is clearly a combination which no-one honest and with normal intelligence could come to any other conclusion.

Without going into details let's just take one example:

Serapeum at Saqqara where there are 21 granite boxes with lids each weight about 100 tons. This weight equals 50 - 60 average middle size family cars! The size of this box is 13 * 11 * 7 feet ( = 3,9 * 3,3 * 2,1 m) that is about the size of that same car. These boxes are in a tunnel in small pits size no more that 3 * the size of a box. (see: Christopher Dunn: The Giza Power Plant pages: 96 – 99 )

The BIG QUESTION is HOW these boxes 50 time my car's weight have been pulled or pushed in these places with barely fits 20 people each size of the box ????

You will NOT be able to find ANY sober & honest historian ( or any other researcher) that is willing to try to explain this with pure muscle and man power!

[Justanotherstarchild]

I think people need to throw out the "visited" part of the theory.

If they came from a nearby constellation moving at or near the speed of light, it would still have taken them a very long time to get here. If they did ever find this planet in the past and genetically enginneered us, it seems like a big waste of time to just turn around and go back to me. From all the so called evidence that we have collected over time, the amount of time they were around in the past is a just a blip compared to the time it took to get here. If they came this far it seems just insane to just leave after dedicating that much time parenting the human race.

They never left, Parents never stop protecting their children even if sometimes it seems like they are not. If we were created by them then they must share the same parenting insticts, after all its in our genes.

Just my two cents,
Andrew

[timeTraveler]

@Justanotherstarchild

I agree that in the "visited" part we have a problem. I have been thinking this issue for a long time. I agree that WE don't have an explanation for how and from where they have come. Now a days I have started to think that our evolution on scientific thinking is a continuous proof of a crucial error that we keep repeating. This is the assumption that we currently know everything ESSENTIAL and the thing that we don't know is insignificant margin. This line of thought has been proven wrong over and over again.

This is why I would like to say humbly that we DON'T currently KNOW how and why, but this lack of our knowledge should not turn down the conclusions that we make from crystal clear evidence.

[Moon]

Since there are countless sightings of unknown phenomena and even abductions to boot, I think many are still visiting us. It is not in the past tense when it comes to this issue.

As for how they got here, we keep using the speed of light as an obstacle for them to get here. If they are millions or even billions of years ahead of us, they probably thought outside the box and found ways to travel either faster than light or through wormholes (or stargates).

We now can watch a movie on a tablet. Think of how marveled it would of made people only one hundred years ago.

[Justanotherstarchild]

I think travelling at or near the speed of light is just so much more reasonable than wormholes and or stargates, thats the only reason I used it for an example. I think if they were advanced enough to travel through stargates and wormholes we wouldnt be a mammal lol.

~Andrew

[polaris]

Current knowledge of physics is sufficient IF the AA's are from another planet in solar orbit - we have already demonstrated we can send man to the moon and space craft to our other solar planets...

No need to overcome speed of light limitations... aka wormholes, stargates and the like...

Are there references to another planet in our ancient texts?